r/pakistan 15h ago

Friday Jirga Thread جمعہ مبارک (September 04, 2026)

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Welcome to our Friday Jirga thread. Whatever is on your mind, share with us. It can be about anything, even non Pakistan related stuff. Please keep the discussions civil as all other rules are enforced.


r/pakistan 1h ago

National In this country, justice seems to belong to the powerful not the victims.

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A Karachi court on Friday acquitted Natasha Danish in a drug case related to the August 2024 Karsaz road accident, citing insufficient evidence against her.

Natasha was facing charges in the case following the road accident in Karachi’s Karsaz area on August 19, 2024.

According to the case details, a speeding Toyota Land Cruiser driven by Danish struck three motorcycles and another car on Karsaz Road.

The crash resulted in the deaths of 60-year-old Imran Arif and his 22-year-old daughter, Amna, while three other people were injured.


r/pakistan 14h ago

Historical That time when Syed Sajjad Haider scolded General Zia ul Haq for forcing martial law upon the country

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As President General Zia-ul-Haq outlined his continued military rule at a top-secret meeting at the GHQ in November 1979, a sense of rebellion stirred within then Director Joint Warfare "Air Commodore Sajad Haider", as he had been harboring concerns about the prevailing situation in the country.

While Zia sat down after his closing remarks, Haider stood up and felt a tug at his trousers from Lieutenant General F. S. Lodhi, urging him to remain silent. Fully aware that expressing his dissent could have severe consequences, Haider gathered his courage, stood up and addressed the President directly.

General Zia, irritated by the interruption, granted him a brief moment to speak.

In front of the entire gathering, Haider stated: "Mr. President, Pakistanis seem to live in a constant state of foreboding and terror of the intelligence agencies. These intelligence agencies have never told the truth, as it is not in their culture to do so, nor are they telling the truth to you about the state of the hearts and minds of the nation. Are these hearts beating for Pakistan or from the fear of getting lashed in public or thrown in dirty cells with convicts on the mere suspicion of being dissenters? These agencies have carefully crafted the fall of every government. What is to stop them from doing the same to your government?

Sir, the road from the airport to the Aiwan-e-Sadr does not reflect the soul of Pakistan; which, in fact, lurks in the dark and pitted backstreets of Pakistan. But these agencies would not suggest that you take a peek there and see the real state of the wretched Pakistani nation. The press, Mr. President, is stifled, and people are petrified to speak their distressed minds.

I have worn this uniform with incredible pride and never hesitated to put my life on the line for the defence of my country. Tragically, I do not feel the same sense of pride as I did a decade ago when people almost kissed our hands when they saw us in uniform in a public place. Today, the tables have turned. People have visible contempt for us and our uniform. Since, in some small way, I share the responsibility of this metamorphosis, I do not feel proud wearing this uniform anymore.

Mr. President, I live in Islamabad, and every day my exit from GHQ brings me on an intercept course with the Corps Commander also going home. But there is a difference. The gallant men of God, who are under oath to defend the people, the property, and the frontiers of this country, travel with outriders on motorcycles; red beacons flashing and sirens screaming to herald the approaching cavalcade. In the meanwhile, all citizens on foot or in transports at the T-junction from GHQ to the old President House are shooed off the road to clear the path for the defenders of Pakistan.

This is not the way defenders should conduct themselves amongst their own people. I think that we have ceased to sense their ire that ordinary citizens feel at such intimidation."

Following the incident, several military colleagues visited Haider, cautioning him about impending trouble and a grim future. While he was in service, he had the opportunity to take a job in the Pakistan International Airlines, which he wrote "seemed like history" after the confrontation with Zia.

Chief of General Staff Lt General Mian Afzaal expressed disappointment, asserting that Haider had jeopardised a promising career in the air force.

Encountering Air Chief Marshal Anwar Shamim at the Islamabad Club, Haider declined his offer to command PAF Base Masroor, citing unease after confronting General Zia.

Writing that he felt confident in his ability to navigate an uncertain future, Haider stated he emphasised reliance on destiny and faith in Allah. Shamim acknowledged Haider's resilience, foreseeing a path to ascend or exit and left the PAF in May 1980.

Haider later noted that he had no regrets, envisioning a space for the younger generation and gratefully declined facilities given to retired personnel, embarking on a new life with just Rs17,000 in his bank account and a 1970 Left-hand Drive Toyota!


r/pakistan 17h ago

Sports 1992 Cricket World Cup winning moment

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r/pakistan 17h ago

National Another cruel reality of our society exposed.

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Another cruel reality of our society exposed in judicial commission proceedings today. #MirRaza's Bykea بائیکیا driver Ihsanullah who with whom Raza took his last ride before abduction and who from day one has cooperated with family & investigation was evicted by police & Bykea vehicle was taken back & fired for getting involved in a police case.

Instead of encouraging those who stand for justice & have courage to come forth with truth we penalise them as a society. Commission taking note of this directed IO of the case to talk to Ihsan's landlord and Bykea about restoring him but Bykea should hire him again on its own. It is strange that all these companies spend millions promoting ads about their drivers being responsible and trustworthy. And when they show their responsibility they are penalised for it. Also a request to other cab hailing services to hire Ihsanullah if Bykea doesn't.


r/pakistan 17h ago

National Young Junaid Jamshed was something else. Possibly the most handsome Pakistani man ever

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All photos from 1980s and 1990s of Junaid Jamshed


r/pakistan 48m ago

Discussion Mir Raza Case: Ahmed Bhardey’s Statement Raises More Questions Than Answers

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After hearing Ahmed Bhardey’s statement, it is pretty much evident to me that he had some serious involvement in Mir Raza’s case.

I mean, the fact that initially the case was being pushed as a suic\*de, and even now Ahmed and his lawyer seem to be trying to spin the story in that direction by bringing up completely irrelevant details about Raza’s parents’ relationship, Raza smoking charas, his father being drowned in debt, etc.

And then there’s the biggest nugget here: Ahmed and his friends/family apparently rushed to Raza’s house on the morning he went missing and transferred all the Notes from his smartwatch. A smartwatch where someone could potentially have passwords, private information, personal notes, etc. They also apparently changed the iCloud email to Ahmed’s email, which would give him access to the account and potentially allow crucial information to be deleted or altered.

Literally everything seems to be pointing towards Ahmed Bhardey and his family.

Also, Raza and Ahmed were equal partners in the business, but Ahmed’s brother and cousin were involved in the business as well.

So it really makes you wonder whether the Bhardey family wanted to take over the business by removing Raza from the picture.

And if Ahmed Bhardey is innocent, why is his lawyer trying so hard to make the whole thing sound like a suic\*de or something related to Raza’s parents? Why not just defend Ahmed and focus on establishing where he was and what he did, rather than trying to shift the focus onto Raza and his family?

Btw, does anyone know more about the Bhardeys? Are these guys Memons? And is there any connection between them and whoever owns the guest house?

Obviously, these are just questions/theories based on what has come out so far. But there seem to be way too many things that don’t add up.


r/pakistan 13h ago

[Long Post] My thoughts after one year in Europe as a Pakistani. Should you escoe

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SORRY FOR MESSY TITLE 😬

Last Part was SHOULD YOU ESCAPE PAKISTAN!

So, me, a 28 y/o guy from central punjab moved to central european county last year in September as a STUDENT and today marks my one year in Europe.

I graduated with bachelor's degree in 2019, and from 2019 to 2025, i was mostly jobless (or doing a 15k per month job in private school) and my life was miserable. I didn't have funds to move abroad as I belong to middle class family. Fast forward i somehow got support from family members who help me with bank statement and other financial support and I somehow got the visa and escape Pakistan (It cost me around ~ 8 lacs in total, i know it doesn't look much), additionally i got admission in university which didn't have any tuition fee so that helped a lot.

Now here are the PROS and CONS of moving abroad (in context of central EU country)

PROS: Very good infrastructure, good air and water quality, excellent transport (atleast where I am), no police demanding rishwat, no sarkari mehkamon ky dhakay, good education, labor rights, freedom of speech (if you care), you meet people from around the globe, visa free travel in Europe, no loadshedding, fast internet, 24/7 cooling/heating

CONS: language barrier (as English is not widely spoken here), wages less than Aus, UK, USA, Canada, Germany, France i.e you can easily manage your expenses and save some money (i have been saving ~80 pkr per month for the last year which is a lot for me who was doing a 15k job in Pakistan), racism can be there but doesn't matter if you are conventionally good looking (GOOD LOOKING IS WAY BETTER THAN BEING INTELLIGENT) and Last one staying away from family will be very tough (don't underestimate the last point, it's actually biggest CON, not gonna go in detail about this one)

It also opened many other opportunities for me as I went to two other EU countries for workshop/training and my university paid for it, I have visited 4 EU countries in the last 1 year.

~ my CGPA was 3.25/4

~ total expense for moving to EU was ~ 8 lacs

~ IELTS was not required (Many central EU country doesn't require it)

~ Jobs mostly i did was at McDonald's and Food delivery (good jobs require local language hence mentioned in CONS)

This is open ended discussion and you can ask me anything (unless it's very personal question)

Thank you!


r/pakistan 22h ago

National No matter the field, Imran Khan carried Pakistan's AURA like no one else.

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r/pakistan 4h ago

Discussion Should we move to the UK or build our future in Pakistan?

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I’m 22F from Islamabad and my fiancé is 22M and currently studying in the UK. We’ve been together for a few years and are planning to get married.

Our current plan is that I’ll go to the UK next year for my Master’s. I have a degree in software engineering and currently work as a full-stack developer in Pakistan. He’s doing law in the UK, but honestly he isn’t interested in law at all, so I don’t know what he’ll end up doing after graduation.

This is where I’m confused.

Part of me thinks we should just try to build our life in the UK. I’ll have my Master’s there, we can both try to find jobs and eventually hopefully settle there.

But then I keep thinking about the money. My Master’s + living expenses + everything else will cost a lot. And there’s no guarantee that either of us will get a sponsored job or be able to get ILR.

The same money could potentially be used to start a business in Pakistan instead. We’d be close to our families, wouldn’t have to deal with visas, and could potentially build something for ourselves.

At the same time, I don’t want to look back and think we gave up the opportunity to live abroad without even trying.

So I’m genuinely stuck between the two.

If you were in this situation, would you:

A) Go to the UK, do the Master’s and give ourselves a few years to try to build a life there, even if there’s a chance we eventually have to come back?

B) Stay in Pakistan and put the money towards starting a business/building our life here?

Would especially love to hear from Pakistanis who have moved to the UK and whether you actually think it was worth the money.


r/pakistan 54m ago

Discussion what's your creative process?

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Kya yahan koi aisa hai jisne:

- Screenplay likhi ho (short film ya feature)

- Film making seekhi ho ya seekh raha ho

- Indie movies mein interest rakhta ho

Mujhe yeh cheezein jaanni hain:

  1. Apka creative process kaisa hai? Idea se script tak kaise jaate ho?

  2. Pakistan mein indie film banana kitna practical hai?

  3. Koi resources, tips, ya personal experience ho toh share karo.

  4. Kya koi collaborator dhoondh raha hai ya bas discussion ke liye available hai?

Main khud film making aur screenwriting mein interest rakhta hoon, isliye genuine logon se baat karni hai.


r/pakistan 3h ago

Discussion PTA registration rates?

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What are the latest PTA mobile registration rates? I really can't find a good, reliable source online. I am especially interested in older phones e.g iPhone 12, Pixel 5 etc.


r/pakistan 17h ago

Discussion What were the signs that told you your loved one is close to their death?

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I've seen multiple deaths so far.

Some very close, and I mean like them being apparently conscious and then suddenly collapsing.

And one where I was part of the end of life care.

Let me share some signs I have seen:

-looking upwards towards the ceiling with a frightened stare

-sometimes pointing upwards as if they are seeing something

-statements such as "seeing alot of light", "the doors are opened", and feeling like someone is touching them or tugging on them

-excessive thirst

-not eating or drink

-complete unconsciousness but still moving their head slightly when asked something like "pyaas lagrai hai?"

-feeling like someone is sitting at the edge of their bed/charpai

What did you observe in your dying loved one?


r/pakistan 1d ago

Political Interview: Pakistan is plotting to kill our dad, say Imran Khan’s sons

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r/pakistan 4h ago

Ask Pakistan What’s one repetitive task at work that you wish you could automate?

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I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how many everyday workplace processes are still surprisingly manual.

I’m a Computer Science graduate from LUMS and an AI/ML Engineer, and I’ve spent the last couple of years building AI systems — RAG applications, recommendation systems, AI agents, backend services, APIs, and data pipelines.

Recently, I’ve become particularly interested in the automation side of AI.

Not just chatbots or AI tools that generate text, but using AI together with APIs and traditional software engineering to automate actual workflows.

For example:

⭐ Compiling weekly reports
⭐ Moving information between different tools
⭐ Processing repetitive documents
⭐ Categorizing incoming requests
⭐ Updating spreadsheets or databases
⭐ Generating recurring reports or summaries
⭐ Manually checking information across multiple systems
⭐ Any workflow involving endless copy-pasting or data entry

I’m especially curious about what this looks like in Lahore workplaces and businesses.

What are some tasks that you or your colleagues still have to do manually every day/week/month?

I’d love to hear about the workflows that make you think:

“Surely there’s a better way to do this.”

No need to mention your company or any confidential information — just describe the general process.

What do you do → what’s the repetitive task → how do you currently handle it?

I’m interested in hearing what people are actually dealing with before thinking about what AI could realistically automate.


r/pakistan 8m ago

National Looking to get suggestions on 1-2 Kanals of cheap/raw land in Gilyat (near Nathia Gali outskirts / Changla / Thandiani road) for a 2-bed cottage. Where are the budget pockets?

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Hey everyone,
I am planning to buy 1 to 2 Kanals of raw land in the Gilyat region to build a cozy, single-story 2-bedroom stone cottage for personal use and occasional Airbnb.
Because my budget is lean, I want to completely avoid the expensive commercial areas like the main Nathia Gali or Doonga Gali bazaars. I am looking for cheaper, quieter pockets where land rates are still around 4 to 8 lacs per marla. I still want a nice ridge or cliffside valley view where I can set up a small grass lawn and a fire pit.
For those familiar with Gilyat real estate, I need some guidance:If you have recently built a cabin or bought land in Gilyat on a budget, please share your tips or recommend any reliable, honest local contacts.
Thanks!


r/pakistan 21m ago

Ask Pakistan NICOP no renew option

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Salam everyone. Im trying to renew my mums national identity card through the PakID app. Ive checked on atleast 3 phones now - whenever i press into 'ID card' and 'myself', no renew/update option comes up, only 'conversion to smart card' or 'conversion to smart overseas card'. I see no option for renewal anywhere. Ive emailed 2 of their support emails and none has gotten back to me. All the details connected to the account etc are correct so im very confused. The app is also updated to its latest version. Anyone experienced the same issue and what did you do?


r/pakistan 23m ago

Social Salt Pakistan

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sooooooo the OG SALT had pakistan’s flag in its bio i couple months ago, now they don’t and also unfollowed the SALT PK page. they keep saying they don’t have a branch in pakistan (Lahore) 🤔 who knows the inside ☕️


r/pakistan 18h ago

Discussion What was the truth of 2018 Naqeebullah Mehsud killing case on Rao Anwar!?

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Muhammad Naqeebullah Mehsud was killed on 13 January 2018 in Karachi, Pakistan, during an encounter by the senior superintendent of police (SSP) of Karachi's Malir District, Rao Anwar. On 3 January, Naqeebullah was kidnapped along with two of his friends, Hazrat Ali and Muhammad Qasim, by Rao Anwar's men in plainclothes from Gulsher Agha Hotel in Karachi. On 6 January, both of his friends were freed by the police, but Naqeebullah was kept in captivity, tortured, and then killed on 13 January in a fake encounter in which he was shot twice in the back. Alongside Naqeebullah, three other men (Muhammad Sabir and Muhammad Ishaq from Bahawalpur, and Nazar Jan Mahsud from South Waziristan) were also killed by the police in the encounter; Nazar Jan Mahsud was shot from close range.

Anwar claimed that on January 13, 2018, his police team conducted a raid on a terrorist hideout in Shah Latif Town, Karachi. According to him, a shootout (or "police encounter") ensued, resulting in the deaths of four alleged militants.

Anwar firmly alleged that the slain youth was not an innocent aspiring model named Naqeebullah, but rather a wanted militant operating under the name Naseemullah. He publicly claimed that the deceased was an active member of banned extremist outfits, including the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Al-Qaeda, Daesh/ISIS and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ).

If we look up at the story version of Rao Anwar he said that Naqeebullah Mehsud was actually Naseemullah & he had kept his identity fake to keep doing terrorist activities & was wanted criminal from 2014, had two FIRs, He also showed his CNIC.

To justify the severity of the encounter, Anwar claimed that the deceased had close ties to high-profile terrorists specifically pointing to a relationship with TTP commander Malvi Sanaullah (alias Fazalullah) & slain leader Hakeemullah Mehsud and accused him of being involved in major terrorist activities, including a fatal attack on a military convoy.

When a Joint Investigation Team (JIT) and subsequent court findings later suggested the encounter was staged and that Naqeebullah had been kidnapped days prior, Anwar rejected the allegations. He claimed that a "fake case" was manufactured against him by adversaries and that the evidence against his team was heavily biased.

Despite overwhelming evidence uncovered by subsequent forensic investigations and a JIT report declaring the incident a staged, extrajudicial killing, Anwar maintained his innocence throughout the trial. The legal proceedings ultimately concluded on January 23, 2023, when an anti-terrorism court acquitted Rao Anwar and 17 others due to what the court ruled as insufficient evidence submitted by the prosecution.

It's strange that in January 2020, when an American political commentator living in Pakistan, Cynthia D. Ritchie, publicly tweeted about it. She mentioned that reports suggested Naqeebullah was dating one of Zardari's daughters and that the subsequent fallout was a "misdirection" to malign the state.

The core of the conspiracy theory asserts that Naqeebullah Mehsud was secretly dating Bakhtawar Bhutto Zardari, and that his death was an ordered hit rather than a random police encounter.

The rumor alleged that Naqeebullah, who was an aspiring male model with a growing social media presence, had met and begun a romantic relationship with Bakhtawar Bhutto Zardari. According to the conspiracy, when the influential Bhutto-Zardari family discovered the relationship, they allegedly ordered a hit to protect the family's honor and political reputation.

The theory gained traction among conspiracy theorists because Rao Anwar—the police officer who orchestrated the fake encounter—was widely perceived in Pakistani politics to be fiercely loyal to Asif Ali Zardari and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) leadership. Skeptics alleged that Rao Anwar did not kill Naqeebullah because he mistakenly thought he was a TTP terrorist, but rather because he was executing a personal favor for his political patrons to eliminate the young model quietly.

Her public statements triggered immense backlash from PPP leadership and human rights activists, who vehemently condemned the claims as completely fabricated, slanderous, and a malicious attempt to defame the Bhutto family.

It is also said that the inquiry committee found out that during his service as a senior police officer in the Malir District of Karachi between 2011 and 2018, Rao Anwar carried out at least 444 killings in 192 alleged encounters, whereas the total number of alleged police encounters led by him was 745, including 553 cases which did not involve any killings. However, not a single policeman was ever killed or even injured during his 745 alleged encounters. Eight people were killed in Rao Anwar's two alleged encounters in the first 19 days of January 2018 alone.

Senior police officers in Karachi, on condition of anonymity, claimed that the majority of the people killed during Rao Anwar's encounters were ethnic Pashtuns. They added that men were airlifted to Karachi from as far away as the Federally Administered Tribal Areas for Rao Anwar to deal with them. Another senior police officer stated: “Rao Anwar led a team of killing machines. There was no one to stop him.” Explaining why no notice was taken of Rao Anwar's actions earlier, the senior police officer revealed that “even the police command is afraid of him because of his close connections with criminal politician Asif Zardari and with elements in the security establishment.”

Following the killings, On 16th January 2018 Rao Anwar claimed that a suicide bomber had targeted his convoy in Malir Cantt. He alleged that Gul Saeed was a militant involved in the attack and that his body was recovered after the retaliatory shoot-out. The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) also initially claimed responsibility for a blast in the area

Gul Saeed's family vehemently rejected the police narrative, stating he was an innocent driver with zero militant links. Outraged by the police's demands for bribes and compliance, his family forcibly took his body from the police before later returning it to the mortuary under negotiation.

A high-level police inquiry committee and a Joint Investigation Team (JIT) thoroughly debunked Rao Anwar's claims. The JIT found that Gul Saeed, Naqeebullah, and the others had no extremist tendencies, were abducted beforehand, and were murdered in cold blood in a completely fabricated police encounter.

After evading law enforcement for nearly three months, Rao Anwar surrendered to the Supreme Court of Pakistan in March 2018 and was granted bail later that year.

On January 23, 2023, an Anti-Terrorism Court (ATC) in Karachi acquitted Rao Anwar and 17 others of the murders. The trial judge ruled that the prosecution had failed to provide sufficient evidence and that geo-fencing and cell phone call records were inadequate to legally prove the presence of the accused at the crime scene.

Human rights activists and the legal heirs of the victims challenged the acquittal. They filed appeals in the Sindh High Court (SHC), calling the ATC's verdict a grave travesty of justice.

Naqeebullah's father died fighting for his son's justice like how Shahzeb Khan's family fought till the end for their boy like how he was killed by Shahrukh Jatoi & just like Naqeebullah's case ATC acquitted the convicts!!!

What are your thoughts on this case!?


r/pakistan 17h ago

Discussion Scammed by dominos

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Im so angry right now. A few weeks ago i ordered dominos and they got my order wrong so they gave me a sorry voucher worth 300rps. Around 2 weeks ago i tried using the voucher but at the time there was a discount going on already so when i applied the voucher they would remove the discount they already had. The discount they were offering for everyone was 350rps basically. So it wasnt worth it to use my 300rps voucher and i ended up not using it and saving it till today. Today i decided to order and i was going to order 2 lava cakes. I inserted the discount voucher and they said i have to spend 1249 rps from menu items. I was like okay weird but ill do it whatever. I also add crinkle cut fries in my order. Literally i put the voucher in and the same message pops up even tho my order is now worth 1550 rps?? Like bro if u dont wanna give me a discount then stop sending me voucher codes. This is so wrong. Im so angry and the price of it is literally atrocious.


r/pakistan 1h ago

Education Uaf or Tuf, Which uni offers better uni life ?

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I am planning on taking admission in university this year

My concern is which university will be the better not only in studies but offer great university life where I can find my type of people

I know UAF is a public institute with great studies infrastructure but I doubt it offers a uni life to enjoy your stay there


r/pakistan 1h ago

Ask Pakistan Advise on DHA Phase 7 5 Marla file in Lahore

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Is investing in 5, 7, 8 Marla files in DHA phase 7 and 10 a good idea? I've been told that Punjab gov is discouraging people buying files.

Is zameen.com a good source to guage the price ranges?


r/pakistan 1h ago

Education What happened to board of 9th this year

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This year has been a disappointment for many student, and it feels like the exams has been checked unfairly or there has been some biases in some students, even I'm the victim of this, I got 386/545 marks this year, even most of the stuff I have written has been backed up by teachers who were responsible for teaching me, The subjects which I ace'd in, has been plummeted, subjects like computer ,english ,math ,physics,TQ, has been a big disappointment many of my peers have the exact same opinions and only 4 of my peers in school are able to pass.

The government has been transparent either if they have told us there is gonna be strict marking policies there wouldn't have been this much fail rate


r/pakistan 20h ago

National Female folk singer Mai Sobhayi shot dead in Dera Bugti

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r/pakistan 6h ago

Discussion Doubting whether to go for 16 pro Max or 16 pro?

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Hey everyone, I’m thinking about upgrading my phone and I’d love to get some opinions. I’m currently using an iPhone 14 Plus. Now I’m stuck between the iPhone 16 Pro and the iPhone 16 Pro Max. For those of you who already have one of these: Any experiences or advice would be super helpful. Thanks!