r/classicalchinese 8d ago

META r/ClassicalChinese: Whatcha Readin' Wednesday Discussion - 2026-08-26

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This is a subreddit post that will be posted every two weeks on Wednesday, where community members can share what texts they've been reading, any interesting excerpts, or even ask for recommendations!


r/classicalchinese 1h ago

Learning Question about the character 治

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I learned that also refers to two rivers. One ancient Chinese river when it is pronounced as /chí/ and another ancient Chinese river when it is pronouced as /yí/.

Does anybody have any insights of the locations of these two historical rivers?


r/classicalchinese 10h ago

Learning I vibe-coded an interactive map & audio tour with Gemini 3.7 Flash to help my kid learn Chinese history and poetry. Sharing it free with the community!

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r/classicalchinese 1d ago

Learning In-person classical Chinese tutoring in the Bay Area

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Hi! I'm a native Mandarin speaker, fluent in English, looking to offering in-person sessions in classical Chinese for people in the San Francisco Bay Area who want to start reading classical texts or go deeper into them.

Background: I went through comprehensive Chinese training that included classical Chinese. I'm also actively refreshing and expanding my own reading.

Proposed Format:

  • In person, 1-on-1 or 1-on-2, kept small so sessions stay focused
  • Content built around what you actually want to read: poetry, philosophical texts, historical prose, or something specific you already have in mind. Otherwise we'll default to my favorite (Song dynasty poems and proses). :)
  • Best for people who have some Mandarin and want to work on reading classical texts.

I can also offer Shufa supplies for you to practice writing classical Chinese texts.

If you're interested, comment or DM with your current level and what you'd like to read, and we can talk through rate and logistics. I can meet around SF / East Bay.

Thank you for reading this!


r/classicalchinese 1d ago

Resource [Book] Music, Mind, and Language in Chinese Poetry and Performance: The Voice Extended

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Request for the book: Music, Mind, and Language in Chinese Poetry and Performance: The Voice Extended by Casey Schoenberger, 2024, OUP

Thanks in advance.

https://academic.oup.com/book/56146


r/classicalchinese 1d ago

History A Chinese idiom 鹤立鸡群 - A crane standing among chickens

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鹤立鸡群 (Hè lì jī qún) literally means “a crane standing among chickens.” It describes someone who stands out from the crowd because of exceptional talent, appearance, character, or presence—like a tall, graceful crane surrounded by ordinary chickens.

Usage:
Used to praise someone who is clearly outstanding in a group.

Cultural note:
The idiom is strongly positive. It emphasizes someone's exceptional qualities rather than simply putting others down.

Origin & Backstory

The idiom comes from Shishuo Xinyu (《世说新语》, A New Account of Tales of the World), a 5th-century collection of stories about famous people in ancient China.

During the Jin (晋) Dynasty (265–420 CE), Ji Shao (嵇绍) traveled to the capital. Someone told the minister Wang Rong “Ji Shao stands out like a wild crane among chickens.” (嵇延祖卓卓如野鹤之在鸡群).

Wang Rong replied “You never saw his father!”

Ji Shao's late father was Ji Kang (嵇康), one of the most famous and admired figures of his time. In other words, Ji Shao was already exceptional, but Wang Rong thought his late father Ji Kang was even more extraordinary.

More Background: A Father–Son Tragedy

Ji Kang and Ji Shao's story adds another layer to this idiom.

Ji Kang (嵇康) opposed the powerful Sima clan, which was gradually taking control of the Wei (魏) government and would later establish the Jin Dynasty. He refused to serve them, openly clashed with the influential minister Sima Zhao(司马昭), and was eventually executed by Sima Zhao in 262 CE.

Ji Shao (嵇绍) was still a young boy when his father died. Before his execution, Ji Kang entrusted his son to his friend Shan Tao (山涛), who was already serving as a high official in the regime that had condemned Ji Kang.

The friendship between Ji Kang and Shan Tao is a complex and well-known story in its own right. It centers on a famous classical essay written by Ji Kang, “与山巨源绝交书” (A Letter Severing Relations with Shan Juyuan). Although they had severed their friendship, Ji Kang still trusted Shan Tao enough to place his young son Ji Shao in Shan Tao's care before his execution.

Many years later, Ji Shao chose a very different path. He became a loyal official of the Jin Dynasty. In 304 CE, during a rebellion, he was killed while protecting Emperor Sima Zhong (司马衷) - the grandson of Sima Zhao, who had ordered the execution of Ji Shao's father.

According to historical records, Ji Shao shielded the emperor from arrows. He was struck and killed, and his blood stained the emperor’s robe red. This tragic story gave rise to another uncommon Chinese idiom: “嵇侍中血” (Jī Shìzhōng xuè), literally meaning “the blood of Ji, the Imperial Attendant.” Here, 侍中 (Shìzhōng) was Ji Shao's official title at the time of his death.

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r/classicalchinese 2d ago

History 《紅樓夢》系統解讀系列 • 第十二講林黛玉 vs 薛寶釵:“木石前盟”與“金玉良緣”的命運對比@Thinkerread

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r/classicalchinese 3d ago

Learning En Búsqueda de hablantes naturalizados que gusten de JTTW.

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Buenas tardes, días o noches. Como puede que se percaten—o puede que no, no hay problema—recientemente he creado esta cuenta en la plataforma, debido a que mi hambre de JTTW me ha llevado a querer indagar las recopilaciones más antiguas sobre la obra—conocidos como edición Shidetang—Y en esencia, querer hacer investigaciones con fines digamos que "pseudo académicos", y bueno, yo no soy hablante del idioma—para mi pesar—por ello me tomo el atrevimiento de preguntarles a ustedes, bella comunidad de sacra sabiduría ¿Alguno de vuestra merced sabe de chino? Me es útil cualquier nivel, a final de cuenta, se puede tomar como un aprendizaje conjunto.

En fin, espero con gratitud vuestros comentarios al tema, saludos.


r/classicalchinese 4d ago

Translation Thư kinh đại toàn tiết yếu diễn nghĩa (書經大全節要演義), a Vietnamese giải âm (解音) translation of Book of Documents

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r/classicalchinese 4d ago

History Do you know how old Chinese idioms (成语) are?

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According to a dictionary compilation of about 4,600 Chinese idioms (成语 chéngyǔ) with identifiable sources, the approximate origins are:

Ancient China → Qin & Han (before 220 AD) 68%

Wei, Jin & Northern/Southern Dynasties (220–589) 15%

Sui & Tang (581–907) 9%

Song Dynasty (960–1279) 6%

Yuan, Ming & Qing (1271–1912) 2%

Even as a native Chinese speaker, I was surprised to learn that nearly two-thirds of these idioms can be traced back to more than 2,000 years ago. I had originally thought there would be more Chiense idioms from the Tang and Song dynasties, but in fact, they account for only 15 percent.


r/classicalchinese 4d ago

History 《紅樓夢》系統解讀系列 • 第十一講王熙鳳的性格悲劇與權力運作:脂粉隊裡的“英雄”末路@Thinkerread

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r/classicalchinese 4d ago

History The Ling fangyi 令方彜 and the bureaucracy of the Western Zhou 西周

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r/classicalchinese 5d ago

Learning 古典新釋三例

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先秦典籍,年湮世遠,文辭古奧,後人解之,每多疑竇。幸今睹地下文獻迭出,取以校讎傳世典籍,則可得前人所未發之新見。茲不揣固陋,就管見所及,略陳三例。

《詩·周頌·閔予小子》:「念茲皇祖,陟降庭止。」毛傳:「庭,直也。」鄭箋:「念此君祖文王,上以直道事天,下以直道治民。」西周㝬簋云:「(前文人)其頻在帝庭陟降,申固皇帝大魯命。」按周代統治者稱「王」不稱「帝」,凡言「帝」或「皇帝」者,多謂「上帝」。「魯」有「美好」之意,簋銘「皇帝大魯命」猶後世之「天命」也(五祀㝬鐘此句作「申固先王受皇天大魯命」)。是知「庭」乃「上帝之庭」,「頻在帝庭陟降」即「頻繁上下往來於上帝之庭」也。蓋周人以為先祖之靈,上能達天帝左右,申固周之大命,下能至宗廟以饗,庇佑後世子孫,故言「陟降」。《閔予小子》「陟降庭止」語意略同,亦即《大雅·文王》「文王陟降,在帝左右」之謂也。

《書·多士》:「乃命爾先祖成湯革夏,俊民甸四方。」舊注以「俊民」為「民之賢者」。大盂鼎云:「在武王,嗣文作邦,闢厥慝,匍有四方,畯正厥民。」此言武王繼文王之業,作立周邦,屏除邪惡,而撫有天下。「嗣」「作」「闢」「匍有」皆動詞,「畯正」亦當如是。「正」與「政」通,訓「治」,「畯正」近義連用,「畯」亦訓「治」(一說「畯」通「悛」,改也,「畯正」猶今言「改正」,使民向善也)。《多士》「俊民」之「俊」與鼎銘「畯」當為一字。又「甸」與「奠」音近相通,訓「定」。逑盤銘文謂「成王……奠四域萬邦」,禹鼎亦云「先王奠四方」,與《多士》「成湯……俊民甸四方」可合觀。《詩·小雅·信南山》:「信(伸)彼南山,維禹甸之。」《書·禹貢》:「禹敷土,隨山刊木,奠高山大川。」是「甸」「奠」古通之又一證。

《書·文侯之命》:「汝肇刑文武,用會紹乃辟。」金文屢見「肇」「帥」「井」等語。「肇」或為語辭,或訓「勤敏」;「帥」與「率」通,「遵循」之意;「井」與「刑/型」通,「效法」之意。大盂鼎云「今我唯即井(型)稟于文王正德」,言「今我乃效法、稟承文王之元德」也,梁其鐘「梁其肇帥井(型)皇祖考,秉明德」用例與之同,其「效法」之意甚顯白。「刑/型」又可作名詞:毛公鼎云「汝毋弗帥用先王作明井(型)」,言「汝不可不以先王作為明德之典範」也,《詩·大雅·抑》「罔敷求先王,克共(恭)明刑」之「刑」亦用此意。又逑盤曰:「丕顯朕皇高祖單公,桓桓克明慎厥德,夾紹文王、武王撻殷,膺受天魯命。」「朕皇高祖新室仲,克幽明厥心,柔遠能邇,會紹康王,方懷不庭。」器主自言其先祖單公「夾紹文王、武王」伐殷,先祖新室仲「會紹康王」廣泛懷柔不來庭朝見之邦。《說文》:「夾,持也。從大俠(挾)二人。」一說甲金文象二人相向扶持一人。《左傳·僖公二十六年》:「昔周公、太公股肱周室,夾輔成王。」以文脈繹之,逑盤「夾紹」「會紹」皆「輔佐」之意也。又曰:「朕皇亞祖懿仲,匡諫諫,克傅保厥辟孝王、夷王。」言「厥辟孝王、夷王」,孝王、夷王乃周之二君,是「辟」有「君主」之意也。《文侯之命》「汝肇刑文武,用會紹乃辟」猶言「汝當效法文王、武王之明德,以輔佐汝之君」。


r/classicalchinese 6d ago

History The Mai Fangzun 麥方尊 and the Practice of Visiting the Zhou 周 King as a Regional Ruler

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r/classicalchinese 8d ago

History The Discovery, Decipherment of Oracle Bone Inscriptions and the Early History of Oracle Bone Studies 甲骨學

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r/classicalchinese 8d ago

History father figures

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presumably this might be more appropriate other places, but i trust y'all's opinions almost more than anywhere else i know of, and i still feel confused when i think about the implausible absurdity of it all: is or isn't it true that probably the two most globally significant proponents of family dynamics as an exemplary model for all ethics and politics, i.e. 孔子 and 孟子, both grew up without fathers? surely numerous previous historians must have commented on the irony. any available citations would hopefully be interesting and much appreciated. (hopefully not only laughing at their hypocrisy (i.e. Zhuangzi, sarcastic bastard), but also to commiserate with their hopeful desperation?)


r/classicalchinese 10d ago

Linguistics I made a small thing you people might appreciate

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double asterisks ** means reconstruction is not present in Baxter & Sagart (2014)'s system, and is modified through Zhengzhang (2006)'s reconstruction through phonemic correspondence via the same phonetic component in the character.


r/classicalchinese 11d ago

Learning Grand manuel de chinois classique : hanmun

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French historian and professor at the Université Paris Diderot Yannick Bruneton has published his book for learning Classical Chinese. In the introduction, quoting La Fontaine, the author tells us not to be scared by the size of the book, which is almost 1000 pages thick.

« Les longs ouvrages me font peur.

Loin d’épuiser une matière,

On n’en doit prendre que la fleur »

Grand manuel de chinois classique : hanmun is one of those few books that teaches Classical Chinese with a focus on Korea. Instead of Pinyin, you will find Hangeul everywhere. Another such book is Ю. В. Болтач's Ханмун: Вводный курс.

You can read a 30-page extract, which provides a good overview of the use of Classical Chinese in Korea, on French publisher Dunod's website: https://www.dunod.com/lettres-et-arts/grand-manuel-chinois-classique-hanmun


r/classicalchinese 11d ago

Resource Early China Resource List - Part IV: Texts and Philology (General Introductions and Editions)

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r/classicalchinese 11d ago

Prose 懼芽心,矛盾象

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此象已七年舊事。然,今常憶之。

僑社聞豆芽三頁,懼如臨亡,泣如洪矣。

三頁豆芽,實為附材也,故不存於國文試卷。何解憂此事?且豆芽之有無,不阻他語續命。其餘波,即立新牌一令,固可擾民,然他文仍存。若論極端,大秦文早可載之,其載量今亦居多。

惟多戶逢北語,速貶祖語,甚者亦阻後人習之。逢芽文,則速憶自尊,急申世俗。

「推普」歷案多視他語為敵。舊時李獅、蔣黨甚狂,祖語多禁。然,李授民英語,反不抑普。故授人一語,不必抑他語。且今時,多處固主北語,然任由他語。「推普」何必禁祖語乎?

何解懼芽文,不懼北語?


r/classicalchinese 11d ago

Learning If you know 好 hǎo vs hào, you already know how 惡 works

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r/classicalchinese 12d ago

Linguistics Why Did Everyone Fear These Two Men? | 狗仗人势 #chineseculture #chinesewisd...

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狗仗人势 (Gǒu zhàng rén shì): don't bully others by borrowing someone else's power. The phrase appears in scene five of Li Kaixian's Ming play The Precious Sword (宝剑记).

#ChineseWisdom #LearnChinese #Shorts


r/classicalchinese 13d ago

Learning Why Did Everyone Fear These Two Men? | 狗仗人势 #chineseculture #chinesewisd...

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狗仗人势 (Gǒu zhàng rén shì): don't bully others by borrowing someone else's power. The phrase appears in scene five of Li Kaixian's Ming play The Precious Sword (宝剑记).

#ChineseWisdom #LearnChinese #Shorts


r/classicalchinese 13d ago

History 《紅樓夢》系統解讀系列 • 第八講 賈府的衰亡過程與抄家機制:從烈火烹油到樹倒猢猻散@Thinkerread

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r/classicalchinese 14d ago

Translation My draft translation of the "Ke Yin" 克殷-chapter of the Yizhoushu 逸周書

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