Just picked up a second-hand ZOWIE EC1-C for around $15. I'm not a competitive esports player by any means—just needed a comfortable mouse for long office hours.
My hand size is 20cm, and I’ve always had a hard time finding a mouse that fits without feeling like a heavy brick, but this EC1 shape is amazing. The ~70g weight makes a massive difference compared to my older stuff, and the paracord is so flexible I barely feel the drag on my desk.
No software BS, pure plug-and-play, and for 15 bucks, this feels like an absolute steal. Still getting used to the sheer size of the shell, but my hand is definitely thanking me.
P.S. I know my fingers look like spider legs on this thing lol.
I have purchased this unit with my own money all opinions are my own.
Specification
Size: 122 x 63 x 39 mm Weight: 50g ± 2g Material: Stainless Magnesium Alloy MCU: Nordic nRF54H20 Sensor: PixArt PAW3955HS Polling Rate: up to 8,000Hz Main Buttons: Omron Optical Switches Encoder: TTC Dust-Proof Silver Side Buttons: Omron Blue Dots Battery: 300 mAh
Price:$187 with shipping to UK
Shape:
This is a upscaled version of the original Huan which is a viper mini clone
Dimensions: 122mm x 63mm x 39mm
When looking at this shape the sides feel more inward than flat though this has been comfortable to place my fingers on. My hand dimensions are 21x11cm for my hand size I would not recommend palm gripping this as it is too small I do wish it was slightly bigger to the size of beast x Max but I guess that's more of a personal thing I do a relaxed claw grip which was good enough though I think those who finger tip should have 0 issue with this.
Build quality:
This is probably the best build quality I have tried to date being made out of magnesium it has 0 flex or creaking when pressing unnecessarily hard this thing is like a tank.
Clicks:
I believe these are the best optical clicks I have tried to date I would even but these over the viper v4 pro these are unbelievably easy to click and spam the pre and post travel is tuned so amazingly and its so minimal that I would say these can even compare to the Hits in logitechs superstrike this is coming from someone whos tried both.
Sensor:
To my knowledge this is their first mouse to use their PAW 3955HS and it is very well implemented I was using 4k polling and 3200dpi and had 0 issues with tracking or flicks it feels very responsive and smooth.
Software:
WLMOUSE uses a web based software I had no issues navigating around on how to use it and what everything meant it is well explained the only issue I had was when updating the dongle as it froze the mouse before letting me select the dongle so I had to also plug a type c in to select the device while it was connected to the dongle but other than that with the software it is very intuitive and nobody should have any difficulty getting around with it.
Skates:
The mouse comes with 4 pre-installed PTFE dot skates, another set of dot skates, 1 set of corner skate, and 1 set of full-sized skates however since I was one of the first 300 to order this I did get sent a free pack of 40 UHMWPE dot skates which was pretty nice however since I am on a glasspad I didn't use the already equipped ptfe skates as they would get shredded therefore I switched to my u9 air skates which performed great on this mouse.
Weight:
WLMOUSE claims 50g ± 2g which I can say is very accurate mine came in around 50.5 with my dot skates The weight balancing on this mouse feels really good and well distributed when holding it from the centre the mouse does not feel front or back heavy and feels very well cantered and distributed.
Conclusion: Overall this is a mouse I can recommend if the price isnt to steep for you and you are a big fan of the design or you wanted a slightly bigger huan/viper mini my only con is that the price is fairly expensive however you are getting an amazing design with a premium magnesium body with a great coating finger prints dont really show on this in comparison to black plastic mice too which is a plus going back to the clicks I can say without a doubt these are the best optical clicks to date that I have tried I would have no issues using this. Thank you all and I hope you enjoyed!
I need a new mouse as my currrent one has given out, the wheel is bugged and my right click sticks. I was looking for a budget mouse to use because I'm unemployed and have almost no money to my name and the g203 looked really good for it's price but almost everyone on here shits on it? Is it worth getting on sale or should I look for something different?
hello everyone i have a question about getting the beast G mini for the sake of wanting to try small mouse for fingertip grip cus the actual fingertip mouse is just too expensive to get and i come across this beast G mini for 44$ so my question is ,is it worth to get when i already has beast x Max? cus currently i use aggressive claw grip almost fingertip grip my hand is 20x10.5cm. thanks
If there is one area of ROG gaming hardware that is becoming more and more unpredictable it would be ROG peripherals. 65K sensor mice were probably not on anyone’s bingo cards, or at least not mine. If you haven’t upgraded your mouse yet this year (month? week?), we have a couple new products that might interest the group.
This is probably one of my longer posts here, so feel free to jump to the TL;DR's and availability information at the end.
ROG Gladius IV Ace Gaming Mouse
For recent ROG fans, you may not know that the ROG Gladius was our first gaming mouse designed for FPS gamers. The Gladius was a wired mouse, which featured a top-tier 6400dpi optical sensor, 200ips, 50g acceleration, and <1.5mm LOD. Quality Omron switches were used with a 20-million click lifespan, and it was later updated to having a 2K polling rate. It’s seen some changes over the years, but the overall design philosophy has centered around a solid ergonomic mouse designed for gamers regardless of grip and built for long periods of gaming. With the esports emphasis that we’ve placed on our ROG Keris and ROG Harpe mice, it’s only natural that we further sharpen the Gladius into the gaming tool it was always meant to be.
For the TL:DR version of the mouse features, here’s what you can expect:
Ergonomic Esports gaming Mouse with ROG Optical Micro Switches
56g default, with three stackable weights bringing it up to 71g
ROG SpeedNova 8K Gen II technology with new placeable receiver
Tri-mode: 8K report rate with cable, 8K with RF 2.4G, BT 6.0
ROG Aimpoint Pro 65K sensor with 11 selectable LOD
ROG Gear Link, Zone Mode, TX power control
Available in 4 colors with included carrying case
ROG gaming mice development these days is heavily invested in understanding the mechanics of how people move and use mice, cycles of feedback and modification, and engineering to ensure a consistent experience every time a new match starts and customization for models where it makes sense. Here’s what’s unique for the ROG Gladius IV Ace:
Backed by Science. Refined for Competition – Developed through extensive sports-science testing and constant feedback from esports pros through various iterations. This led to an ergo mouse design that helps to reduce muscle strain while the hand grips, lifts, and moves the mouse during competitive play.
Custom Weights and Center Balanced – The ROG Gladius IV Ace is center-balanced for consistent handling, but we also include three additional weights to help you find the perfect amount of customization. Three different stackable weights (3g, 5g, and 7g) give you up to seven different weight configurations (from 56g up to 71g) to find the one that’s just right for you.
Precision-Matched Click Feel – Getting a gaming mouse that feels consistent with every click may feel like winning a lottery, but with the ROG Gladius IV Ace, it’s strictly by design. Each switch is sorted by click force before installation, and then the left and right buttons are matched using switches within the same force range. After assembly, every mouse is individually machine-tested as a complete unit to verify strict left- and right-click consistency (+/- 5gf) to ensure a closely matched actuation feel.
Beyond the design, the rest of the mouse needs to have the hardware, software, and firmware to give you any sort of fighting chance against your competitors, and the ROG Gladius IV Ace is packed to the hilt with new tech and features.
ROG SpeedNova 8K Gen II Receiver
It wasn’t that long ago that ROG SpeedNova tech was brand-new when introduced with the ROG Keris II Ace. The impacts were not only to enable 8KHz wireless gaming, but also reduce latency and improve battery life at the same time. But now we’ve gone even further. Powered by an upgraded MCU, ROG SpeedNova 8K Gen II achieves 40% lower latency compared to the first gen. The new receiver takes advantage of the 2m paracord cable to bring the receiver much closer to your mouse and avoid interference, while also adding additional functionality.
Smart RF Detection – The receiver detects surrounding RF conditions and indicates connection quality in real time, giving users the opportunity to change the placement to improve signal quality
Improved Signal Stability – Featuring a larger antenna and new RF architecture with Active Dynamic Hopping, the receiver scans the environment for optimal channels, helping to reduce interference for more stable wireless performance in competitive play.
Customizable Status Indicators - Dual LEDs provide quick visual feedback for RF status, battery level, and active profile. The indicators are customizable in ROG Gear Link to suit your preference.
ROG Aimpoint Pro 65K Sensor
ROG esports mice (and most of their casual gaming mice cousins) have been fitted out with exceptional ROG Aimpoint sensors. The ROG Gladius IV Ace features an upgraded sensor that gives you options for customization, performance, play styles, and tuning for stability and battery life:
AimPoint Pro 65K Sensor – Up to 65,000dpi, 800ips, 70g max acceleration. 11 different lift-off distance levels to fine-tune tracking behavior. Up to 20,000 frames per second scanning and 8000Hz polling. Captures movement with exceptional speed for more responsive tracking during rapid flicks, swipes, and precise adjustments. This sensor is built for prime time.
Zone Mode – Customize your mouse settings for performance and battery life. Performance all the time, or only when it matters? RGB all the time or turn it off when it’s “go time” to eliminate distractions? Zone mode gives you those options and can be customized in ROG Gear Link.
Dynamic TX Power Control – Further tune your experience. Go with the Full TX Power mode and maximize your transmission strength and anti-interference performance, or switch to Environment Adaptive mode to prioritize wireless stability and battery life based on real-time conditions.
ROG Gear Link
Many of you are already familiar with our web-based browser utility to configure ROG peripherals, which makes it easy to customize settings or tune performance parameters no matter where you are. The ROG Gladius IV Ace is just the latest ROG gaming mouse to be included.
Accessories, Colors, and Availability
The ROG Gladius IV Ace includes a variety of accessories. We’ve already discussed the stackable weights, 2m paracord cable and the ROG SpeedNova 8K Gen II receiver. We also include a receiver skin, mouse grip tape set, 100% PTFE mouse feet set, a pick, and a hotkey QSG. The mouse also comes with a custom carry case to store the mouse and its key accessories.
The Gladius IV Ace will be available in the following colors:
Fans of the ROG Spatha X gaming mouse now have a premium update to our MMO gaming mouse offering without a complete redesign. Compared to the previous gen, the new ROG Spatha X 65K mouse features a massively-upgraded sensor, tri-mode connectivity with ROG SpeedNova technology, new ROG Push-Fit Switch Socket III, significantly lower weight, modular weight and balance options, faster charging, longer battery life, and ROG Gear Link configuration support. So, just like the old one, but faster, more accurate, lighter, smarter, longer-lasting, more customizable...you see where I’m going with this, plus a fresh coat of paint.
For the TL:DR version of the mouse features, here’s what you can expect:
MMO-focused gaming mouse with 12 programmable buttons
ROG Push-Fit Switch Socket III with two included micro switch types
125g default, five configurations with modular weights to increase up to 145g
ROG SpeedNova technology built into a new advanced dock
Tri-mode: USB cable, RF 2.4G, BT
ROG Aimpoint Pro 65K sensor with 11 selectable LOD
ROG Gear Link
After releasing a string of ROG ultra-lightweight esports and lightweight gaming mice, the tank of our ROG gaming mice has returned, but with new skills, better dexterity, and several new surprises under the hood. The critical part of the ROG Spatha X 65K is that it is a beefy mouse with 12 programmable buttons designed to place you in control at all times.
12 Programmable Buttons – L/R click buttons, side buttons, buttons along the top edge, the mouse wheel, and below the mouse wheel. Program them, click them, good things will happen. The layout of the side buttons makes this an excellent mouse for a variety of games, including MOBA, but you’re not limited there. Anyone who wants to have more buttons close to your thumb will appreciate the tactile layout of the buttons designed to place the triggers closer to the resting point of your thumb.
ROG AimPoint Pro 65K Sensor – Similar to the ROG Gladius IV, the ROG AimPoint Pro 65K sensor handles up to 65,000dpi, 800ips, 70g max acceleration and 11 different lift-off distance levels to fine-tune tracking behavior. Capable of handling different surfaces, the sensor includes Track-On-Glass technology.
ROG Push-Fit Switch Socket III – The new socket maintains the ease of use and compatibility of previous sockets, but is now built to withstand up to 2,000 swaps.
ROG Micro Switch – Included with the ROG Spatha X 65K are a pair of micro switches. Continue to use our ROG Micro Switch II with consistent, crisp clicks and a 100-million-click lifespan, or swap them out for our ROG Silent Micro Switches to have muted, thocky clicks with a 50-million-click lifespan. Or swap them out for compatible third-party switches. The choice is yours, thanks to the included switch puller.
Modular Balancing Act – At a 125g default weight, you might think additional weights wouldn’t make a difference, but you’d be wrong. The ROG Spatha X 65K includes a modular weight system that not only adjusts the overall weight, but also allows you to bias the weight towards the front, middle, or back to make your movements even more precise.
Advanced Dock
A hallmark of the previous gen ROG Spatha X, the new advanced dock makes a return doubling as a wireless receiver that helps keep the connection stable and supports fast charging as a wireless magnetic charging dock.
ROG SpeedNova Wireless Technology - In addition to charging, the dock incorporates ROG SpeedNova wireless technology to reduce latency and reduce battery consumption.
Fast Charging – Raid starting in a few minutes but your battery is low? Just 15 minutes of charging via the dock or USB-C cable provides up to 25 hours of gameplay, with a full charge delivering up to 148 hours* of battery life – twice the battery life of the previous ROG Spatha X.
*With RGB off
ROG Gear Link
As we mentioned above, ROG Gear Link is our web-based configuration utility. No software is needed to make changes, so you can take your mouse with you and update settings or fine-tune the mouse to your preference on-the-go.
Im clueless. I have a foxray fxr-hm-75 currently. The reasons I'm looking at a new mouse despite somewhat liking this one
My pinky constantly drags
Tired of wires
It feels light
My concerns are, I remember hearing back in the day how wireless mice were bad for gaming but I see nowadays that mice can use wifi and that Bluetooth is good enough nowadays?
I want a heavier mouse but not too massive if that makes sense. My hands get shaky(long story) so would like it to be stable especially when zooming in on shooter games.
I would like it so my hand isnt dragging. My wrist drags too though that may be something on my end.
My budget is preferably less then 80 and on Amazon. I'm looking at the red dragon m810 pro as it seems affordable but I don't know brands outside of Logitech and razr
I’m looking to replace my Redragon M913 Max. I really love having the 12-button thumb grid, but I want something lighter and better suited for shooters while still keeping all those side buttons.
I’ve looked pretty heavily at the SteelSeries Aerox 9 Wireless, and on paper it seems almost perfect. My concern is that I’ve seen a lot of reviews/posts about them developing issues or breaking down after only a few months of heavy use.
I’ve also owned a Corsair Scimitar before. I liked the mouse, but the scroll wheel broke after about 8 months, so durability is pretty important to me this time around.
What I’m looking for: 12 or more side buttons
Lighter than the Redragon M913 Max, preferably significantly lighter
Wireless is a HUGE plus, but I’d consider wired if the mouse is really worth it
Good sensor/latency for FPS or shooter games
Durable enough to handle heavy daily use
Budget isn’t really an issue. I’d rather spend more and get the best option than compromise.
I know a 12-button MMO mouse probably won’t ever be as light as a dedicated FPS mouse, but I’m trying to find the best middle ground between the two.
For anyone who has used an Aerox 9 long-term, how has it held up? Are the durability complaints overblown?
Also open to basically any brand. What’s the best 12+ side-button mouse available right now.
I wanted to buy a different mouse (in zone mouse a, a great mouse with its own niche shape and benefits). It’s broken now where I can’t use it unless it’s connected with the wire which I didn’t really mind tbh but wanted to look at other options. I mainly play cs2 (lvl10 faceit 25k prem 7k hours). I have a while collection of mice (ec2dw, superlight2, viper mini, deathadder v4) all of them had their own pros and I loved all of them. But this guys this has taken me to a diff lvl of consistency and just sheer confidence in my peeks.
I’m talking about the endgame op1 8k v2. It’s wired and don’t let there other reviewers fool u, u def feel the wire ever so slightly especially if u come from wireless. But the shape Jesus the shape, ur hand (18.5*9) is just completely locked in. I use relaxed claw and I’m telling u I dropped 5 games faceit top frag on 4 of them even won a 4v5 game by sheer aim( teammates were really good as well ngl). I have never felt so one with my gear. I don’t use the 8k option but I genuinely can’t even tell the difference between 8k and 2k. But I can def feel them insta clicks.
I might buy 2 more for safe keeping just in case it goes out of stock. I use glasspad for now the stock skates are gucci but the guy at the store said after a month I can feel it wearing off, but I might even keep buying the stock skates every month just to get this same feeling everytime.
Also end note I’m using an office Logitech keyboard rn cuz my apex pro tkl has some dogshit bug where if I press function key it tweaks out. Please suggest some keyboard for peak tac fps experience ty
How do the thumb grooves on both the NP-01s v3 and NP-01 Ergo feel compared to each other in the hand? I recently had the NP-01s Ergo, and the thumb groove wasn't very deep or satisfying in my hand.
For reference, mice I've used before: Pulsar Xlite CrazyLight mini, Lamzu Thorn (v1)
I'm looking to get an upgrade from my DeathAdder v2 that I've had for quite sometime now.
I've recently bought a x2 mini off of Amazon but it is way too small and I'm planning on returning it for either the X3 Crazylight medium or the Maya x.
If anyone has any input or any other recommendations that would be greatly appreciated.
Is the superlight 2 also something to consider as it is currently 173 aud which is slightly cheaper than the Maya x
PS my hand is 19cm X 8cm and I use a relaxed claw / palm hybrid
So i use a palm grip 18/10
I want something long term
my main options are the OP1 from endgame gear
the attack shark R5 and the atk A9
i have a budget of around 70 80 including shipping to Florida
im just torn because every mouse i look into just has problems
Outside of shape/button positioning I would say I like every aspect of the U2-DW except where I want to grip. The side buttons are too far back and the natural spot for the thumb is a little too far back for me which makes using the rear thumb button uncomfortable. It might just be the narrow shape of the mouse where the rear button sits as well. My old G Pro Superlight for comparison I would overall say was slightly, slightly, too big but sort of has the same problem where the rear thumb button just doesn't feel great to use.
60g feels fine for me, probably wouldn't want to go more than ~25% lighter/heavier if preferred.
Sensor, switches, scroll wheel, color, I'm open to most things. My right switch half died on the U2-DW, I've had it for over a year, maybe over two at this point and sort of been looking for a reason to get a new one any ways. I don't really have a budget but I'll say $250 which I know is likely overkill. Also located in the US.
Oh fingertip grip as well. Used to think I was claw but I find my hand just naturally falls into a fingertip grip, my palm at best on the fat thumb area barely touches some mice I have used.
The current gaming mouse I use has a scroll wheel thats a little non-responsive. I don't think its something that can be easily fixed because I've owned the mouse for about 3+ years at this point. As such, I'm in the market for a gaming mouse. I don't need it to be super high-end, but it'd be nice if it had a few extra buttons on the side that were easy to press.
My only big issue with buying a new mouse is the scroll wheel texture. I've had mouses with scroll wheels that have a bumpy/rigid texture in the past and I've had days where my finger felt funky from so much scrolling. I don't need the mouse to be perfectly smooth, just with a texture that doesn't affect my finger if I do a lot of scrolling.
So in short: Are there any good gaming mouses with a few extra side buttons and a scroll wheel with a nice smooth texture?
Does anyone use motion sync on the Hitscan Hyperlight. I've heard that with the older sensor in the mouse that the implementation is not as great as newer mice?
Most mice that I've owned are from before motion sync started to be a thing. Used the DeathAdder 2013, Razer Chroma, and Mamba a lot. Got a DeathAdder v3 but didn't like the newer shape. Also didn't know that Razer keeps MotionSync on by default. Though it seems Razer has the best implementation of it.
If anyone owns this mouse, do you keep it on? I'm 50/50. Small micro adjustments are nice with MotionSync, but flicks and staying accurate feels weird!
I've had a Naos 7000 for about the past decade, and I love it, but it's finally starting to give up the ghost. I'd love to replace it with another one, but Mionix doesn't make them anymore; so I need a new mouse.
I've done some research and narrowed it down to 2 main contenders, and 2 other secondary contenders that I think would work for me. Overall, right now I'm leaning towards the G502 X, but I'd like some more opinions.
Main Contenders:
Logitech G502 X:
Pros: Reliable, good quality, lots of buttons, similar size to the Naos.
Cons: Price. Wired only.
Rapoo MT760 Pro:
Pros: I like the shape, sturdily built, has a side-scroll wheel, higher polling rate, cheaper.
Cons: Lower DPI, not many buttons, smaller size.
Secondary contenders:
Turtle Beach Command Series MC3:
Pros: Good shape/size, good number of buttons, side scroll wheel.
Cons: Turtle Beach often has poor build quality, can't find many reviews of it, price, wired only.
Keychron M6:
Pros: I like the shape, side-scroll wheel, significantly cheaper.
This unit was sent out for review but my thoughts and opinions are my own.
Just uploaded my review of the Orcus, Lamzu's latest mouse and their first fingertip mouse! I had a blast with it and I think they created the most friendliest entry into the to fingertip space! https://youtu.be/s7edws21_q4
