Tomorrow is 10 weeks since I quit kratom. I am so proud of myself. As I’ve said in the past, I used for over 7 years and quit over 20 times. Made it anywhere from 48 hours to 14 days. Had a stint with 7oh and then finished the last period of time on about 35g.

I finally feel energy, motivation, happiness, and everything else that comes along with sobriety. I haven’t had to take 5pm nap from a crash in 6 days.

Life is moving on and I’m getting into great shape - I finally look and feel alive. I don’t know that I’ve hit 100% but maybe closer to 90%. Havent had a bad wave in 5 or so days - just consistent, regular life.

Will update again when I get some more time under my belt. Wishing everybody good luck moving forward in their journey to putting this garbage beyond them.

After nearly 9 years of a 70–120+ GPD powder habit, and never going more than 12 hours without kratom, I’m ready to jump.

My last dose will be roughly 29 hours from now. Saturday will be my first full day without it.

From the outside, my life probably looks pretty good.

I’m 56. I have a great family. A good career. I make and save good money. I exercise first thing every morning, 365 days a year. I get early morning sunlight every day. I eat a high-protein diet with 10 to 15 kinds of fruits and vegetables a day, and I get extensive bloodwork twice a year.

On paper, I appear to be in great health, and I’m grateful for that. I’ve also been on TRT and HCG since 2008, so kratom never really hurt my libido or ability to finish the job.

But bloodwork doesn’t tell the whole story. Part of me still wonders what nearly a decade of the devil’s sludge may have done beneath the surface.

Because I only used powder and bought it in bulk online, the habit wasn’t even that expensive. Probably about what a lot of people spend on a daily Starbucks habit.

So my bottom wasn’t some big dramatic outside collapse.

It was an inside bottom.

Inside, I’ve been living in constant fear.

Fear of running out. Fear of traveling. Fear of not having access. Non-stop anxiety. Constant comfort-seeking. Constant isolation. Sneakiness. Shame. Frequent urination. Not taking my family on trips they deserve because I didn’t want to deal with being away from my supply.

Kratom became my operating system.

Before kratom, my life felt full of synchronicity. God moments. Little signs. The sunlight of the Spirit kind of stuff.

Kratom. Shut. That. DOWN.

It didn’t destroy my life from the outside. It just quietly built a wall between me and the part of life that used to feel alive.

I seriously respect those of you who do this completely cold turkey. I mean that. I thought long and hard about my strategy, and for my current life situation, I believe the MAT path is the right one for me.

I attempted to taper, but I couldn’t make it work. All I did was obsess about my next dose. 

I don’t think I would have chosen Suboxone if Sublocade wasn’t available. My plan is to taper off the shot. I've heard a lot of great success stories.

I have a week off work, and my doctor has me set up with comfort meds and Suboxone. My insurance approved Sublocade, and I just processed my first order.

The doc said to take the first Suboxone dose 12 hours after my last kratom dose, though I may wait a little longer if I’m not clearly in moderate withdrawal yet. Even though a lot of people say precipitated withdrawal isn’t an issue with Kratom, I have read a few horror stories on here, and I would hate to be one of them.

I also have liposomal vitamin C, magnesium glycinate/topical magnesium, black seed oil, compression boots/socks, a heating pad, and self-massage tools in case restless legs get rough.

Yes, I’m being pretty damn OCD about all this. But that’s what I do. After all, I slammed green sludge every 60–180 minutes for the better part of a decade.

Over the years, my personal stash got so ridiculously huge it weighed more than many full-grown adults. And I’m not talking inventory. I never sold any. Just my secret little doomsday supply.

I threw it away over the past month.

It’s going to be weird without kratom running the show anymore.

I’m not expecting Sublocade to get me off scot-free. I’m sure I’ll still have to pay the bill somehow. The only way out is through the fire.

But I have some good things going in. Lifelong exercise habits. Morning sunlight. All that fiber probably saved me from the constipation a lot of people deal with. A supportive wife. Young kids who need me - who’ve never seen me NOT on kratom. And this forum, with a lot of inspiration from those of you who have already walked this road.

So after all these years of chasing comfort and isolation…

Waking up full of DREAD.

Stressing about access.

Sneaking off to dose.

Missing LIFE.

Being a slave to the sludge.

I’m ready.

Human beings have endured things far worse than this when something they loved was waiting on the other side.

For me, that’s my family. My freedom. My connection to God. My life without this stuff calling the shots.

Thank you to this community. You’ve helped me more than you know.

Time to put this behind me.

Godspeed.

I remember how scared I was to make the jump...I had tried so many times and failed...and I knew the pain that was in store for me.

The first 3-4 days I didn't sleep at all....kind of felt like I was losing my mind.

Felt rough for a month...this is the part where I had always caved in the past. The great blah or as some call it PAWS

Then things started to get a little easier with each passing week...

But I always had to fight off the cravings and constantly remind myself of who I was and where this crap brought me back to...every single time

Now I've been clean for 6 months...and I must say I very rarely have a craving for it. I can't let my guard down, but the obsession has been removed.

I go to AA meetings...I pray ( though I'm not sure what exactly)

I always remember that this stuff is poisonous for me...it's never ever only one time. It always goes back to an everyday habit. Remember that every day.

If I can do it.....so can you. Make the leap...freedom is on the other side.

Thank you to all the support this community has given me

I had capacity to prepare but I didnt do that. So cold turkey it goes. Its day 3 from 20-30g per day. I feel like I wanna die. Ibuprofen ran out, weed ran out, nicotine ran out. I have nothing. Slept 2h this night. So Im gulping beers down. Not too much, like 2 a day. But still way better than nothing. I dont even like alcohol. But the feeling like my heart isnt racing and Im not panicking, even for an hour is a great reset. Also I bought food today for the first time in 2 days almost. Wish me luck please. I dont know if I want to eat lead or dose kratom. But in reality I dont wanna do any of these things.
Tomorrow I will maybe join my friends on a little nature trip. I texted them about my situation but idk if I should go. There will be lots of food (good) and alcohol (not so good) and friends (good). I wish I at least had weed cause Im already a smoker and it always helped with withdrawal. But today I have nothing. Im surviving somehow. At least I graduated university on kratom. Thank you all.

What I thought felt at least two lifetimes away is now here. And looking back, it paradoxically feels like a blink of an eye. What a wild ride and drastic change in such little time.

After using daily for so long, the days always seemed to drift by quickly and wastefully in my life of addiction. The future always felt so far away. Like even 2 or 3 days from the present day was never on my radar.

Now I have a healthy perception of time. Both the present and future feel fluid. I'm able to function through the day better than ever while simultaneously preparing for the near and relatively distant future. It's allowed for better multitasking, balance between work, family, leisure time, and self improvement. My ability to cope with stress, unforseen obstacles, or unexpected set-backs is far better than it ever was. I thought I was using to aid coping with these things. But even at my highest of highs, it was never as good as today. I wasn't self medicating. I was self sabotaging in a delusion of relief.

It's seriously like I've been reborn and am a completely different person now. I have multiple hobbies and diverse interests now. Some of them new. I've picked up amateur astronomy as a hobby. I have multiple serious telescopes and professional grade gear to go with it. I've also joined my local astronomy club. I've had incredibly life changing nights alone observing, pondering...or fulfilling nights educating others. It's one of the most special feelings I hold with high regard when you get your telescope perfectly aligned and magnified on an object for someone else to look through, and then explain that photons left that object thousand or millions of years ago. And like tiny pre-destined rain drops in the dark sky, they have entered the telescope and to the end of it's journey at the back of your eye.

But I mainly enjoy my work and career and time with family. The daily routine of the little things is what I really treasure the most. I'm the best father I've ever been and everyone around me knows it.

I find I really struggle trying to help others with what worked this time when they ask. I've struggled for so many years to quit and always relapsed. I never gave it enough time. My best assessment and analysis is before my quit attempt, I had long talks internally with myself and externally with my counselor and wife about how my main focus was going to be on not using even once. No matter how bad I felt, no matter how little sleep I got, no matter my mood, anxiety, or depression. Never even take 1 small minor dose. Not even as a reward (the biggest trick in the addicted brain book). I let time do most of the healing and work for me. No matter how little or big of effort I put into helping my withdrawal, letting time tick by takes no effort. Time may seem to pass slow at moments or go by fast at others, but time is always going forward no mater what you do. I gave myself grace, permission to underperform for months in all areas of my life, and look at time as the main supplement, helper med, or healer. I didn't know it then, but for me personally, I solved the rubik's cube to my addiction.

It first took hours, then days, then months. I remember having doubts around 6 months and accepting that maybe I'm just naturally a depressed and anxious person. This was who I am know.

That would have been okay. I had come to terms with and accepted that. Gratefully, I was wrong. I've never been more content, at peace, present, and simply enjoying experiencing life as a whole with all of it's pains, emotions, sensations and triumphs as I do now. "Alive" really is the best term to describe it.

I really started to notice the light starting to shine around 7 or 7.5 month mark. It gave me the spark and motivation to turn that into momentum into improving my physical and mental health, relationships (both with myself and others), etc. This seems to have even further aid and propel me to recovery.

Your mileage may vary. And after years of reading these posts, watching countless videos, and really studying addiction and recovery, I know that everyone's experience and timeline is different. But what we all have in common, no matter how much effort, time, or sacrifice it takes, getting clean from this trap always feels worth it to us exponentially on the other side. I really can't think of any other thing at the moment that everyone can universally agree on when discussing this specific topic except this. I've yet to meet anyone who has been sober for 1 or 2 years that regrets quitting.

I really don't want to get on a soap box and preach to those still struggling in the throes of addiction with the same platitudes we all have heard so often. I just wanted to speak sincerely about my experience. It's a difficult path and I really don't think there is a magic bullet or secret potion that can be shared universally to help everyone. Just take comfort in knowing you are not alone and no matter how bleak things get, you will be ok. Just let the sound of that second hand clicking and ticking be your comfort and focus.

One Love

-Steve

When I quit cigarettes years ago, one thing that really helped me out was seeing this infographic that had early milestones like “lung function improves after 36 hours" etc.

So to help me out I went through this subreddit and gathered benefits people notice that come from quitting kratom within the first week. Hopefully this is helpful to anyone.

• 24-48 hours:

  • This one is kind of a minor "win", but still worth mentioning: A clear sense of pride and mental space from making the decision
  • Freedom from the dosing loop. Just not having to think “when’s my next dose?” starts to free up mental space.

• Day 3–4:

  • Mental clarity flickers back. Thoughts feel less foggy and more “yourself” again, even while physically uncomfortable.
  • Music and emotions start returning. People specifically say that within the first few days to a week, music sounds richer and emotions feel less numb.

-Day 6–7:

• Mood feels more natural. Instead of the kratom‑driven ups and crashes, emotions start feeling more like “just me,” even if there are still rough patches.

• Libido and interest in intimacy begin to return. Some notice this surprisingly early, once kratom is no longer dulling drive and sensation.

Please feel free to add any other benefits you noticed and I will update this post!

I'm going into my first day of quitting cold turkey. I am in a place where it is impossible to obtain kratom. I intentionally let myself run out so that I'd have no choice but to push through. I am very very scared and nervous for what the next few days hold for me.

I figured I'd hop in on day 60 with a post.

I feel great.... still struggling with energy... I have good intentions but to actually DO what I want to do is another story. I think it's getting better, but like right now I'm cleaning and I stopped in the middle cause it's boring 😂 but I am determined to get back up and finish.

I have struggled deeply with sleep through this journey and though I am sleeping, I still wake up at least once a night.

On day 40 I slept the entire night but every single night since I wake up at least once.

I stopped all my supplements during the day awhile ago because my stomach was a mess, and since day 40 I stopped them to go to bed....

I was determined to not train my body to think I needed something to fall asleep, however it seems like my body said k I'll play your game and fall asleep and then wake up 2 hours later so you take some valerian root 🫩 (which is one that messes with my stomach but it gets me right back to bed) so I am still taking a little something but not depending on something to feel... This or that because I feel like that's the mind I was trying to escape even if it is just supplements.

Anywho super happy to be able to make this post because I surely never thought life would be normal again. I promise you it WILL.

Until my next update post I'll continue to stay active in forum answering anything I can or sending encouragement because this shit wasn't easy... Shoot still am working on it all at day 60!!

Stay strong, F Kratom!!!

I’ve been taking this disgusting plant for a little over a year or so and I’ve been using it daily since then. Just recently decided to quit and I’ve dropped down from 40 grams per day to 20 and I’m feeling better emotionally I just hurt more then usual. and I should mention I was using it for rheumatoid arthritis and when I found the stuff I thought it was like CBD I didn’t realize it was just how habit forming and dangerous it was. I get my family loves me but they gotta stop living my life for me, I should be making the decisions to go, not by force.

Been on 800/mg day 7o habit for six months. Really trying to put this behind me before surgery. I don't wanna wake up with a bunch of tubes sticking out of me in full withdrawal. Any advice?

hi, ive been on 7oh for a little over a year now, like many others i was given a sample and told it was just kratom but stronger, which led to me taking up to hundreds of mg at one point. im down to 40mg a day, 10mg when i wake up (around 9am), 10mg at 2pm, 10mg at 6pm, and then 10mg at 8pm then my 400mg seroquel script puts me to sleep luckily. would it be a waste of money to go to rehab? i dont know if i can kick this on my own. i also want to be off kratom and 7oh completely. im a recovered fentanyl addict of 5 years now and this feels harder than it was to quit that. the sweating, the brain tingles, just everything SUCKS. im also bipolar so ive been all over the place emotionally. just wondering if anyone has some tips or advice. i have enough to last me about 25 days. ty in advance <3

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Hey everyone,

I’m hoping to get some advice from people who have been through something similar.

I’ve been using kratom for about 3 years, averaging roughly 20 g per day. About 6 months ago I added 7-OH, and unfortunately my use eventually got up to around 150 mg/day on average.

I’ve now decided that I really want to get off this stuff, but I’m trying to do it as gradually as possible rather than going CT.

I’ve already started tapering the 7-OH and I’m currently down to around 100 mg/day. The problem is that I feel like absolute shit pretty much all day. I’m functional, but I have this constant background feeling of anxiety, restlessness, low mood and just generally feeling unwell. It’s making me wonder whether I’m tapering too quickly or whether this is simply something I need to ride out.

The plan I’m currently considering is:

7-OH taper → get down to around 20–30 mg/day → transition to kratom only → stabilize for a few days → then start tapering the kratom.

Since I was already physically dependent on kratom before I ever started 7-OH, I’m hoping that getting back to plain leaf might make the transition easier and give me a more stable base from which to taper.

Eventually I’d like to get off the kratom completely as well. I’m not in a rush — if this takes a few months, so be it. I’d rather do a slow, sustainable taper than keep pushing through miserable withdrawal every day.

So I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone who has done something similar:

- Did you taper the 7-OH down first and then switch back to kratom?

- Did you find 20–30 mg/day low enough to make the transition reasonably manageable?

- How long did you stabilize before starting the kratom taper?

- Would you recommend tapering 7-OH and kratom separately, or reducing both at the same time?

- And what helped most with that constant “I feel like shit all day” feeling during the taper?

I know everyone reacts differently, so I’m mostly looking for personal experiences, especially from people who had a fairly substantial 7-OH habit on top of long-term kratom use.

Thanks in advance. I’m really trying to get out of this without making the process harder than it needs to be.

Day 2 of quitting after 2 years of 5 to 7 gpd. Some thoughts, I think while i'm on kratom i can get happy on demand, like when ur bored u just take it and everything became interesting. i also would take it before a nice sunset drive, before going to the beach etc but the problem is i always need it before doing those things and that sucks. Without kratom life sucks when ur bored and there's no magic powder to make you happy in an instant. U gotta have effort to release endorphins like going to the gym etc. However, on great occasions like going to the beach, visiting a museum etc u get naturally happy without needing a substance. U can travel anywhere without worrying about not having access and just be excited about the trip! I don't know if it makes sense or not. Anyway i prefer being happy on occasion

Crazy to think tomorrow will be 3 weeks. Aside from the occasional mood swing/depression, this past week has been pretty manageable. Ive not had any cravings which is nice. I can tell my body and bank account are thanking me. I also noticed my blood pressure was staying pretty high during my use and it seems to have leveled back into the normal range.

It’s been a pretty good day overall. Last night sleeping sucked. My restless legs and nerve damage were crazy. Seems I’m not having many daytime issues at hour 56. I’m just really tired from now 2 nights of no sleep.
My other major issue is my shame and embarrassment about my addiction. I never told anyone that every 4 hours I run to my bathroom or whatever bathroom I’m near, lock the door, and shovel basically dirt by the spoonful into my mouth. I don’t think anyone would believe me!!! I’ve never told my husband. So last night he’s asking if I’m ok and why are my legs going crazy in bed? I just said idk 🤷🏻‍♀️.
But I’m gonna have to hold myself accountable and probably check in daily if that’s not too often. Just until I trust myself. The easy part is, there’s none to access anywhere. So if if I wanted to slip up, I can’t get any. I own my own business that I busted my ass to build. I can do this!!

After 4 months off of kratom (7 years of 3-8 grams a day) I succumbed and went back 2 1/2 ​weeks ago. The amount I'm taking isn't bad, 3 -4 grams a day, but I promised myself I wouldn't take it daily and that's gone right out the window. I'm a small person who uses it for energy so I don't need a lot, but man, I feel like shit. I don't even recall feeling this bad before I quit the first time. I think it took a good 2 years before I started feeling my energy fluctuate a huge amount when I used to take it.

Back to even worse energy than before, shitty sleep, brain fog.... I'm so pissed at myself. And I wasnt even"craving" it!! I happened to stop at a dispensary and it was on the shelf and I thought,a small bag won't hurt. 😡

On the bright side, because I truly haven't felt good at all on it, not even during the first few days when I was sure it would hit, I mentally know that I can't take it anymore.

I guess it like I had to prove to myself yep this shit is not good for me.

Thank god last quit wasnt HORRIBLE but it was bad enough thatim not looking forward to going through it again. Sigh. ​Need some support to quit again.🙄

.eta: thanks for all the kind words of support. I think I'm mostly pissed because I really was detoxed , and while I wasn't feeling great (back to why I started taking it in the first place) I was definitely slowly improving. now I'm back to square one. DAY ONE TOMORROW 💪💪💪

Taking it for about 10 years. I have loperamide, liposomal vitamin C, GABA, Aleve, and some L-Theanine drink mix. Is there anything else I can reasonably get that will help? I've tried to taper and i have tapered down quite a bit because I was around 50 gpd but I've hit a wall and I think the only way out is through at this point, and I think now is a good time to do it before the weather starts getting cold because it aggravates the RLS like a mofo for me. All guidance and encouragement appreciated

ive been in a taper for the past 2 months, stated around 50 grams a day, dosing every 2ish hours. this week i’m down to 7.5gpd, only 3 doses, every 8 hours. i came clean to my doctor and she initially prescribed clonidine to help (which was a huge help initially, and i’ll still use 1-2 days for each taper). i had a follow up appointment with her a couple days ago. she said i promoted her to do a lot more research on kratom and she was shocked to learn of all the receptors it binds to beyond just the mu-opioid receptor.

through our conversation it came obvious she was probably more concerned with how i’d adapt to PAWs and suggested either ketamine or psilocybin therapy to address the underlying addiction issues, and she’d be happy to prescribe it for me. even with my cuts,

overall, i’ve been adapting well. not feeling any anxiety or depression thus far (except on my initial cut) and that im happy to keep moving along with how ive been tackling this. ive told her my goal was to slowly taper, which ive been very strict with thus far, to allow my body time to respond from a 10 year addiction, allowing my dopaminergic and serotonin receptors to slowly and naturally bounce back, but i’d keep it in mind.

curious if anyone here has experimented with either of these therapy methods.

Ive been lurking on this sub since this past Friday reading about others' experiences, and although it helps, every day that has passed over the course of this week has kicked me further down. Since day 1, I've experienced a level of general pain throughout my body that varies from a 4 to a 7/10 at the worst; OTC pain relievers havent been much help. I have been taking the reccomended supplements before and during this week, so maybe it could be worse. Super hot showers and meditative breathing have been my lifeline so far.

I haven't experienced any cravings, but I've been an emotional wreck just begging for the physical pain to be over at this point. I figured CT was the better option for me at first, but maybe I should have tapered. I'm too far in at this point to turn back and taper. I have immense confidence in my discipline simply because i NEVER want to experience this again in my life.

I woke up this morning to the pain level down to a 2 and cried out of relief, but the pain crept back up to a 6/10 by 10am and has stayed about the same since.

I just feel so helpless dealing with just the acute pain for so long now, that's all.

i just went to the shop where i’ve been getting 7oh (relapsed about 3 weeks ago) and they had none left. so i decided to get some red strain kratom powder to help myself taper off because i’ve been wanting to quit anyway. but will that actually work? does anyone have experience using kratom powder to ween themselves off of 7oh and to help with withdrawal?

How it started with occasional Kratom leaf capsules for a chronic pain issue my doctor had given up on solving. How it helped with my adhd during medication shortages. How a different smoke shop gave me “free samples” of 7oh, promising it was the same thing, just concentrated. My ass. 3 years later. $2000+ a month. Shame at every trip to the shop, especially if I was already out and shaking and trying to act normal. I was making 6 figures a year at work and taking out weekly loans from payday apps. Smoke shop buddy told me about the ban and how he’s seen all kinds of people like me in my situation. Regular folks who have never had addiction problems. People whose worst vice is a vape on a weekend who were told it was a fun party drug or a natural supplement for relaxation and now show up daily. He actively steers people away from buying it for the first time. He got really angry when I told him about the free samples from the other shop.

It’s off the shelves here and I was excited about it. Then the other shop brought them out from the back when I walked in and I felt so fucking helpless and angry. I was looking forward to not be allowed to have it. I was excited to be cut off and get the suffering over with. I bought two bottles from their shit eating grins and told myself that was it. I got a bottle of regular leaf Kratom to wean off with.

I was taking something like 900mg of half regular 7oh and half pseudo a day…Something like 15 tablets a day with 15mg per tablet. $180 every other day for a bottle. In the past 24 hours I’ve taken less than 30mg…the biggest chunk just now before bed. And I’m so proud, I could cry. My throat hurts. I’m cold and tired and leaning on the Kratom less than I thought I would. I’m weirdly excited to see my nice smoke shop guy again. I want to give him a hug. I think he’ll be proud of me too.

UPDATE: last night was the first night in 2 years that I didn’t wake up and dose. Grateful to you all.

Hello everyone, I have been taking Kratom dir about a year now daily. I was bouncing between 9-13 gpd. I started my taper at 13 gpd 3 days ago and am down to 10 right now (been dropping a gram per day). Is this too aggressive? I haven’t noticed any major withdrawal symptoms yet and I will probably start reducing by half a gram per day once I get to a lower dose. I’m hoping someone that was at a similar dose per day can share their experience.

Also, what benefits did you see after you quit? More mental clarity? Better sleep?

I’m 1 month free from 7oh. I don’t get the cravings, but just thinking that I may find a stray pill somewhere scares me. I don’t know if I have the willpower to throw it away.

I can’t visit the store I used to buy at, in case they happen to have some and offer the sell to me.

I don’t ever want to go back but I miss the feeling I got while taking it.

How long does this feeling last?

Also, RLS is still bad but not as bad as the first week after quitting.

I want to tell everyone to get off kratom. I never thought I would ever say that. I was an advocate on how much it helps with everyday issues. Now I want to advocate to get clean.

Btw, I was on 7oh for about 3 years and did leaf kratom before that. It’s been about 6 years total. I went cold turkey when quitting. If it wasn’t for my husband doing this with me, I couldn’t have did it cold turkey. But we supported each other.

I hope everyone has the strength to kick this. Know you aren’t alone. There is a bright light at the end. I enjoy things a lot more.