I had been one full week off 7OH & decided to try some free cats claw. I was given by the guy I used to buy a bunch of seven from at the smoke shop… Needless to say here we are 14 days later and I have done between 150 and 450 mg a day excluding two days that I took a single day break… the past three mornings I have said I wasn’t going to go and get more and I would just quit, but I start my mornings now every day by violently vomiting around 16 to 20 hours… any advice other than to just bite the bullet? I don’t understand how these withdrawals are worse when I was doing much higher amounts of seven and did it every day for months on end… Meanwhile, I am on day eight straight of MGM or whatever is in cats claw, and like I said, have done it 12 of 14 days… Does anybody know what’s in these or why the withdrawals are so intense?

Can I take these two together without issues? Cats claw with Zoloft ☹️?

Just making posts to keep myself accountable at this point to help remember the pain. I quit SR 4 days ago also….Still having serious brain fog and fatigue but trying to push thru. Daytimes have been really rough with that but by evening time I seem to feel better. I have been using a little plain leaf to help get thru the day but usually just 1 dose every 24hours or so. Definitely don’t want to get reliant on that but I guess it helps a little. (5 years ago or so I tapered off 40gpd fairly easily so worst case not afraid to taper again and I’m only taking 5-8 gpd the last couple days)…Anyway keep pushing all. I spoke to someone yesterday that said after 2 weeks their energy started really coming back. I’m hoping that’s the case for me. In about 8 hours I’ll officially be 2 weeks since my last dose. I will never touch that again (or 7 or mgm). Never want to go thru this pain again.

Hello all, this isn’t my first post in this subreddit. But its the first time posting a recovery journal.

long story short, a few weeks ago I started ingesting these tabs called ‘super klaz’, for a while was at 640mg a day. Before i knew it i was physically dependent on these little shits. This isn’t my first time kicking a kratom derived product. in summer of 25’ i got hooked on 7oh. it was bad. i struggled with this habit four about a year, to the point where i had to check myself into rehab. I stayed about 45 days in this place, while on a maintenance dose of subutex. That was the best i felt in a while. when i got out i was clear headed, and productive.

early august was great, was working a little bit before the college semester started. but Mid august i decided to visit the smokeshop id get my 7oh from. They had most of the 7oh sold off cause of the panic behind it being banned, but they had this stuff called ‘super klaz’ cat claw extract. So i bought a pack. tried it, it was stronger than the 7oh limitless tabs i used to get, and longer lasting, I thought to myself, ‘why not, as long as i space it out and not get physically dependent’. that might’ve worked for like a week. But after that things spiraled out of control. i stopped taking my subutex and ive been taking klaz every day for the past 3 week, and i get dope sick if i don’t have it.

i made the decision to not buy anymore klaz yesterday night , as a result i woke up violently dopesick around 1am. I decided i should take my subutex around that time. it didn’t help at first, i also decidedbto take some clonidine, gabapentin, and another trazadone for sleep. i was able to fall back asleep around 4am

Im tired of this existence already and want to go back to how i was a month ago. i woke up at 10am instead of buying more klaz this morning i decided to take another sub, i still dont feel 100%, but i feel better than i did around 1am, just going to continue riding this out. sat around listening to songs by Thin Lizzy, phil lynott is my hero and a big inspiration for me to get sober. he died too young at 36 from drug related health problems.

its now 2:30 pm, and iam typing out this post in my car about to head to class at my university. Im barely functional, and i know even a tiny dose of klaz would take alot of these issues away, but im here, not going to skip classes. its been 26 hours since since my last dose of klaz and going to continue to ride this out. I remember when getting off 7oh, it was roughly by day 2 or 3 that the tunnel starts to light up again.

Sobriety is possible, it isnt easy, but there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.

I was wondering when this page would show up. Myself and others have been talking about it for months …Back in April after a year long battle w 7oh I was able to get off with plain leaf. Long story short a few weeks later I found these new cat claw products. It said there was no 7oh or Kratom so thought it was safer. Within a few weeks was hooked. After a few horrible months trying to kick this stuff. Finally stopped a couple weeks ago….Was up to 12-14 75mg buzzers a day..Sometimes worse…Sometimes klaz and other brands but usually buzzers…I’ll be starting day 14 in a couple hours (dropped the SR) 4 days ago. Still having total brain fog and lack of motivation. Taking an occasional feel free shot to help get by but please all get off this cats claw shit before you end up like me. Much worse than 7oh imo.

I know these things are still kinda new but I’m hoping someone has experienced this. I’ve been taking these cats claw tabs for months now life completely ruined honestly. I’m about ready to quit them.

My worst side affect from these though is my lack of sex drive. I’m a 28 year old man generally healthy and I haven’t had sex with my girl in months. It’s starting to really get to us both. It started with me not being able to stay hard during sex even with viagra. That led to me not even trying or having the want for sex.

Please has anybody experienced the same? Did your sex drive come back when you got off of these? Please tell me there’s light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks in advance

Got off 7oh when it was made illegal. Felt so good for it to be cut off. Cue the introduction of catsclaw. I thought.. “hmm I’ll try it out of curiosity. It can’t be as bad at 7oh since that’s illegal now.” Well, that was some serious ass cope.

I was only doing like 2 50mg tabs a day and realized I was getting withdrawals. Tried to pull the ripcord and it was so bad yesterday. I’m going to take a little today and maybe some tonight and hopefully taper a bit more. Feeling so sad. I was going to propose next week but I don’t know that I can now.

Who else is realizing they’re in the same boat they were in 2 months ago?

Waiting on sr.. got pushed back till tomorrow… so I got this to survive .. peeled off the cats claw stickers and look what’s hiding behind the label boys and girls …

I’m transitioning to the other side as we speak. Klaz was the only brand I took and I took it for a month straight daily. I got up to 300mg at the most, but usually 200mg daily. I took my last dose of 100mg at 4 pm yesterday. The restlessness and uncomfortableness started at 6 am this morning. I’ve been stocked up on subs from getting off 7oh a few months back but I’ve been so scared of trying these because of precipitated withdrawal. I said fuck it, about 7 am i ripped like 2-3mg worth off of a 8mg strip. Got in a hot bath and hoped for the best. No precips!!! I got out of the bath and was able to finally lay down and sleep until noon. I woke up and the body aches have been crazy, but I took a couple xanax because this whole deal has given me pretty bad anxiety… went back to sleep and woke up at 6pm and took a whole 8mg strip. It’s now midnight… still a little achey but fuck it, as long as I can avoid the restless legs I’ll go through the rest of it. I’m hoping the aches will subside as I take more subs through the next couple of days. When I quit 7oh back in June it took 3 days on subs for the aches to go away. I’m hoping for the same.

Well, I am retarded and managed to get dependent on this stuff even after quitting 7oh.

I took it every other day for like two months and that was enough to give me some classic WD signs. Chills, fruity/metallic smell/GI trouble/fatigue.

Oddly enough, it took about 36hrs for this to all start unlike the 12 hours it took for 7.

Anyone gotten to the other side of this? I've been on Klaz/buzzers and am wondering what the timeline looked like for these mystery tabs.

So a little bit about me. I started the brand ‘super klaz catclaw extract’ about 3 weeks ago, ive been taking 640mg daily since. I tried quitting this morning, but caved the withdrawals were too much, and went and purchased another pack. I know that life addicted to this stuff isn’t sustainable; and ill eventually have to go through the withdrawals.

Does anyone know how long the withdrawals will last? and what compound is in ‘Super Klaz’?

I’ve been taking this stuff daily for almost 4 months and I’m about to lose everything. This stuff infected my town but police raided gas stations and took it off of most places shelves but there’s one vape store that still sells it. I visit this place like 2-5 times a day to feed my addiction and it’s getting to the point I can’t afford it anymore.

Has anyone successfully quit this stuff what were the withdrawals like? I quit Kratom through sheer will alone so I’ve been there with the withdrawal. Will this be anything like that? Please help