r/pcmasterrace 1d ago

Meme/Macro An offer I apparently can't refuse

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u/A17012022 Desktop-Ryzen 9800XD +32GB Ram+5070ti 1d ago

Jokes on you, I went from a 1070ti to a 5070ti.

Now that's a change.

And with the current state of hardware and my life, this is probably my last pc lol

EDIT: that sounds ominous, I mean I am nearly 40 with a wife and child. I do not have the time or money anymore to fuck about with Nvidia price hikes.

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u/paqman3d 1d ago

I'm 40, with a wife, and 5070ti. No kid though. So I can build one more 😂🫠😓

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u/RUPlayersSuck R9 7900X | RX 9060 XT | 32GB DDR5 23h ago

Life choices...

Do I have a kid, or build another PC?

😂

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u/hamfinity 21h ago

"I have three kids and no money... Why can't I have no kids and three money?" - Homer Simpson

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u/JustAPotato38 4090 5800X3D 17h ago

only one of those two can run the latest AAA games

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u/guareber 16h ago

One of those is an endless source of joy and worry in equal measure.

The other is a kid. I know what I'm picking.

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u/Fluffy-Tennis-7567 22h ago

Sounds like you’ve got a good setup going. It’s always fun to plan a new build, especially when you’ve got the resources to do it!

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u/paqman3d 21h ago

It's an AM5 build, so I plan on stretching it out through the 2030s as much as I can. Waiting to upgrade my 9800x3d to whatever the last AM5 chip is in the future makes this feel like it can run nearly forever lol.

I will most likely get the RTX 6080 for GTA6 on PC and move my 5070ti to another rig. I even think I could get another gpu generation in after that.

I have 64GB of DDR5, so I really think, for gaming, I'm set with a framework to expand with through the PS6 era. It would take something transformative for me to get a new mobo/cpu socket, and ram in this economy.

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u/Own-Signature-7742 23h ago

I went from a 3080 to a 5080 and even though the 3080 is very good, 5080 blew it out of the water.

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u/Elkburgher 23h ago

I went from 3060 to 5070ti, Im happy with it lol

It plays everything well, totally worth it

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u/ISniffFeet1 285K - 5070ti - 64GB 6400 1d ago

5070ti is a beast and well worth its cost

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u/AshesX RTX4070 | 5800X3D | 32GB 1d ago

It might be good. Is it worth the cost, no, not really. For me at least it's almost the same price as a 5080.

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u/Chance-Pay1487 17h ago

If we are gonna talk about cost I wouldn't even consider 50 series cards for comparison.

I just got a 6900xt and sure, the 5070ti is like 35% more powerful and has all the dlss and raytracing and stuff, but my 6900xt is $1000 less, which is like a 60% better performance per dollar ratio

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u/Asgardisalie 17h ago

I mean your 6900xt is ancient on feature side, sure, Doom 2016 will run at 1000 fps, but Cyberpunk with even slightest ray tracing will make your card run worse than 2070.

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u/Ambitious_Handle7322 R5 9600X | RX 9070 XT | DDR5 32GB 9h ago

I’m sure he’s aware, so he just won’t turn on ray tracing lol. It’s not mandatory to use it

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u/Late_Accountant_3641 21h ago

750 vs 1k?

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u/AshesX RTX4070 | 5800X3D | 32GB 21h ago

If I could get a 5080 for 1K it would be a steal. They sit around 1600-2000. The 5070ti is about 1400-1600. In euros.

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u/Asgardisalie 17h ago

Here in EU 5070ti cost ~800€ and 5080 ~1200€.

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u/Late_Accountant_3641 21h ago

In us it's 750, sorry for the EU Bros

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u/KaseyTheJackal 9950X3D, 128GB of RAM, RX 9070 XT, 2x 4TB NVMe SSD, 2x 24TB HDD 21h ago

In the US the 5080 is $1500. The 5070 Ti is $1200. I prefer to get the same performance for half the cost by going with the 9070 XT

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u/thiswonderfulworld- 10h ago

The cards that keep burning at the connector? That now cost more than my entire build from 3 years ago? That's a hard no from me.

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u/zeedware 1d ago

I would argue post 30xx there are not a lot of meaningful changes. I'd say you're good in the next 10 years

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u/Vaxtez Core Ultra 5 135H/16GB/ARC 8 Xe Cores 1d ago

Considering that there's alot of Pascal users, I could see the Blackwell GPUs holding out into the early 2040s.

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u/Rosea96 1d ago

Few years ago I went from 1080Ti to 4080 and it was my best decision too.

Tons of games was unplayeble and after everything on ultra was like dream.

Now I hope during 6080 release price will be normal so I can upgrade again :/

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u/Opening_Net8098 23h ago edited 22h ago

If prices ever get better.

Get on the chopper. Don't listen to the super series waiting game folk.

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u/Rosea96 23h ago

I am kinda afraid of it too, it will stay like this. Right now I dont need upgrade but in few year it coming again lol

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u/SellApprehensive9293 22h ago

im still sitting on my 1660 super cos i dont feel like paying extortion prices for something i barely use nowadays

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u/WarpigReborn 20h ago

That's a good run.

I was gonna wait to upgrade my 2080 until next gen, but the climate seemed like a bad idea, and boy was I right! Very happy with my 5070 Ti (at MSRP). 😎

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u/TK-528491 20h ago

I went from the 1080 to the 5080 and it was such an amazing experience. Being able to crank games up and using newer features is amazing. The pricing is pretty brutal though.

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u/_mRED 19h ago

Went from a 1060 to a 9070XT. It was mind boggling to say the least.

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u/TechnoGMNG589 Ryzen 7 9800x3d, 5070ti 17h ago

yeah, my first pc is also probably my last unfortunately

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u/RedditWhileIWerk PC Master Race 18h ago

similar age, no kids, but I refuse to pay what they're asking today.

Can I technically "afford" it? Sure. But I refuse to pay 2x-3x for storage, and "whatever number we pulled out of our ass this week" for GPUs.

I snagged a 9070XT for MSRP late last year, guess that'll be my last GPU ever. Nvidia is dead to me.

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u/campreviewr00m 18h ago

At that point you’ve earned retirement from the upgrade cycle.

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u/Chance-Pay1487 17h ago

Just went from a 4060 laptop to 6900xt desktop yesterday. It's an insane difference.

It's basically like 200-300% more performance if you factor in fps and graphic settings.

For this game in playing now I want from being able to do medium 75 fps to ultra 120fps(max fps in game)

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u/Anonymous_Hazard Ryzen 7 7800X3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 14h ago

1060 to a 5080 here. I built it just in time before things got way too crazy more than a year or so ago. Feel great about it lol

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u/Suc_Mydiq_Jr 1d ago

11 more frames but 20 000 more AI cores generating a 30 thousand tera-slops of AI power

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u/UGD_ReWiindz25 1d ago

New term unlocked tera-slops XD

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u/SubstanceTimely6790 22h ago

Have we considered how many "free" FPS we would get if developers just optimized their games? They are walking hand in hand with the hardware "bros" to make the industry money.

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u/campreviewr00m 18h ago

30 thousand tera-slops... Sounds exactly like the spec Nvidia would put on the box

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u/MJMPmik 1d ago

"serious mode on"

Never understood this X FPS more thing. If its 11 more from a 15-20fps base its great, If its 11 more from a 120fps base its almost unnoticible. Use % people! Or at least give more info.

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u/Diels_Alder 1d ago

26 fps is borderline unplayable

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u/neppo95 1d ago

You were born this century weren’t you? I wouldn’t call it a great experience but there’s plenty of games you can play just fine with 30 ish fps. Consoles also were 30 fps for a very long time.

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u/Corrupted_soull PC Master Race 1d ago

As a person born this century anything near 30fps is playable and pretty smooth experience overall

Hell Arma 3 with mods before the performance patch 15 fps is playable.

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u/OkEmu8597 1d ago

As someone who developed motion sickness out of nowhere in my 20s 30fps be giving me migraines in anything fast paced, but hey it could be worse I could not be able to play games in the first place so I can deal with my debuff.

Genuinely tho it hurt now understanding what some people must be talking about when they say "this games un-playable at 30" after mocking them for years, God said SHUT TF UP to me and I've taken it personally lol.

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u/J05A3 It's hard to run new AAA games with 3060 Ti's 8GB at 1080p High. 1d ago

emulation on IOS community is satisfied to launch games without JIT lmao

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u/quaintlogic H2 Flow | 9800X3D | Sapphire Pure 9070 XT | 32GB | 2TB 22h ago

I guess it comes down to every person but I've noticed lower frame rates on a 3D, "high fidelity" game is far more noticeable and jarring than low FPS would be on an isometric or 2d game.

I don't notice lower FPS as much on games like Factorio, rimworld or OpenTTD but I REALLY notice small drops on things like BeamNG, Dota, Battlefield, GTA etc.

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u/xVEEx3 PC Master Race 22h ago

30 fps is great if the frame pacing is consistent. if it isn't it annoys me

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u/hamfinity 21h ago

Back in my days, we enjoyed single digit FPS when playing Goldeneye 64

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u/MJMPmik 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well, yes, but If you can get 26fps maybe you can go to 40ish with tweaks. Or the 15fps were with 8K RT Ultra DLSS5 or something. A 40% uplift would be fantastic.

Anyway, that was just an exemple.

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u/DeeJudanne 7800XT | 32gb ram | r7 5700x3d 21h ago

if you only get 25 fps if you had 15 before after paying 2 grand you got scammed as hell

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u/Necrologist92 1d ago

%? Ok 10% of 20 is 2, 10% of 120 is 12. Does it help now?

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u/wassimSDN i7 13650hx | 5060m 1d ago

give the performance increase in %. not whatever it is you're doing here.

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u/FarseerEnki 18h ago

Is 11 frames a lot? It depends on how many you had before. If you already had 144 frames, not really. But if you only had 23 frames, then definitely lmao

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u/MasterOfPipettez 18h ago

Yeah percentages matter.

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

That was literally me with a 4080S looking at the 5080 on release. Aside from the AI stuff, it's like 13% faster in general. Which is like one good OC.

Generational leap my ass.

Edit: Looking at the TDP of those cards - 320W vs 360W, might as well just be a brute forced performance uplift.

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u/marcusbrothers 1d ago

The 5080 wasn’t for you though, you don’t have to upgrade every generation.

I went from a 2060S to a 5080 and it’s probably the best upgrade I’ve ever done.

Generational leap(s) some would say.

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

I know, doesn't mean it's not the worst generational uplift

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u/ISniffFeet1 285K - 5070ti - 64GB 6400 1d ago

I don't think it is the worst generational uplift - especially with dlss5 support.

People can internet complain all they want, but dlss5 looks visually appealing and is a good feature to have

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

We're talking here pure rasterisation, not hallucinations

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u/Schneller52 9800X3D-5090-64GB | 5900XT-5080-32GB | 5800X-3080-32GB 18h ago

Since you brought up OCing, the 5080 has substantial overlocking headroom to widen the gap significantly from the 4080S closer to 25-30%, especially at 4k resolution. Whereas the 4080S is already toward top of its timings. In rasterization I would say it’s a respectable leap from a Super variant mid-cycle refresh. The area where it can be criticized more accurately is that it did not come with more vram.

But as others have said, no one should ever be looking at going from a Super to the very next release of the same tier card lol. That’s just silly.

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u/bawzstatuz 1d ago

Don't forget the chance of your GPU catching on fire.

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Damn, I forgot about that one. Ok thats a cool party trick worth the price.

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u/Average_Sized_Jim 23h ago

The 40 series to 50 series was and is a brute force upgrade. They are manufactured on the same process.

There was a large uplift from the 30 to 40 series, though, which I have experienced personally. The performance improvement between my 3090ti and 5090 is very impressive.

Also, as an aside. Do not get into 4k gaming if you have not already. It is a trap.

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u/Rosea96 1d ago

Cuz you have 4080 super and super replaced TI that would be crazy to upgrade.

It mean to be replaced like every third/second gen and to be real it can last longer.

I went from 1080 TI to 4080 so that 5 year.

From 4080 to 5080 it can be worth for same people cuz it is aroud 45% boost.

Other went -

980 -1080 20%

1080 - 2080 30%

2080 - 3080 50%

3080 - 4080 50%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5SS1GNrs_Y

So it is not bad and I have feeling it will get only worst with price during next 5 year, so not bad upgrade.

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

The difference between 4080 and 4080S is like 1%

13% uplift is a joke, sorry

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u/Rosea96 1d ago

But depend how true it is, it showing 4090 is superior to 5080 by 18% yet in benchmarks what I saw it is not even 10%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9HQkudyg80

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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Well I personally trust Techpowerup more than some rando on YT.

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u/Dreamo84 1d ago

If I'm currently getting 49FPS that's a good deal. If I'm currently getting 120fps it's not so much a good deal.

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u/avidvaulter Ryzen 9 9950X3D | RTX 5090 | 34" @ 3440x1440 19h ago

Depends on the screen. 5k2k with a 5090 will struggle to hit 144fps without mfg but if you have a 3440x1440 screen, you'll hit it consistently in pretty much every game just using 2x fg.

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u/Serpher i7-6700 | 32 GB DDR4 | Zotac 1080Ti | XonarD2X | XPG SX8200 Pro 17h ago

You seem mistaken. Nvidia is an AI accelerator company.

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u/Ok-Book-4070 9950x3D / 3090ti FE / 64GB 1d ago

30 less frames and yaasified faces*

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u/guleedy 1d ago

Prices are about to get worse

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u/The-Frugal-Engineer 1d ago

My GPU died and I am taking advantage of my dusty Steam deck LCD to finish all my catalog in steam. It's a simple and happy gaming experience. Not changing PCs until the ai madness is over

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u/scamp4666 1d ago

The first digit of that price tag follows the Fibonacci sequence and increments once a year

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u/SnowTitan77 19h ago

I went from a 1660 super to a 3080 a few weeks ago and I feel like I’ve entered the space age

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u/Thisismyredusername GTX 1660 Ti | i5-9400F | 16 GB Vengeance LPX | 1 TB 990 EVO Plus 19h ago

Why are you buying a 5070 Ti when you already have a ... wait, ehich card does OP have again?

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u/MasterOfPipettez 18h ago

To be fair thats almost a million frames per day /s

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u/bingbing304 16h ago

But AI will insert 100% of those frames between every real frame , you just need to pay extra this feature because we only make it available on our latest hardware. LOL

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u/rayquan36 i9-13900K RTX5090 64GB DDR5 4TB NVME 16h ago

Nvidia bad amd good

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u/StyleApprehensive925 14h ago

Then nvidia adds dlss5 and you lose half of your currently FPS.

The table, i mean, nvidia always win.

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u/DemonyyRambo 8h ago

I'm gonna make an offer you cannot refuse ahh reference

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u/Rave_Lord It burns the skin off my leg every time i boot borderlands 6h ago

and an AI filter that takes half.

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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! 5h ago

Joke's on you. I went with AMD. Got more FPS and saved about $2500.

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u/Nerdrage27 MSI 5070Ti VanguardSOC, 9850X3D, 32GB 6400MHz CL32, 2TB, 4K OLED 1d ago

You take that deal? I'd take that deal. Damn good deal - Hans Landa

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u/rikyy RTX 5080 7800x3d 64gb 6000mhz CL30 1d ago

Eh, it's actually brad pitt

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u/ConnectBasil5421 20h ago

You guys keep making memes about this stuff yet the 2000 dollar gpus keep getting sold 

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u/MajinnVuu 20h ago

More power to the rich cunts buying them i guess

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u/mca1169 7600X-2X16GB 6000Mhz CL30-Asus Tuf RTX 3060Ti OC V2 LHR 21h ago

if you turn on DLSS 5 you get, slightly better looking graphics in some games in exchange your FPS gets cut in half.

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u/WarmAttention9733 21h ago

Seems reasonable.