r/pcmasterrace • u/campreviewr00m • 1d ago
Meme/Macro An offer I apparently can't refuse
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u/Suc_Mydiq_Jr 1d ago
11 more frames but 20 000 more AI cores generating a 30 thousand tera-slops of AI power
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u/SubstanceTimely6790 22h ago
Have we considered how many "free" FPS we would get if developers just optimized their games? They are walking hand in hand with the hardware "bros" to make the industry money.
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u/campreviewr00m 18h ago
30 thousand tera-slops... Sounds exactly like the spec Nvidia would put on the box
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u/MJMPmik 1d ago
"serious mode on"
Never understood this X FPS more thing. If its 11 more from a 15-20fps base its great, If its 11 more from a 120fps base its almost unnoticible. Use % people! Or at least give more info.
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u/Diels_Alder 1d ago
26 fps is borderline unplayable
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u/neppo95 1d ago
You were born this century weren’t you? I wouldn’t call it a great experience but there’s plenty of games you can play just fine with 30 ish fps. Consoles also were 30 fps for a very long time.
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u/Corrupted_soull PC Master Race 1d ago
As a person born this century anything near 30fps is playable and pretty smooth experience overall
Hell Arma 3 with mods before the performance patch 15 fps is playable.
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u/OkEmu8597 1d ago
As someone who developed motion sickness out of nowhere in my 20s 30fps be giving me migraines in anything fast paced, but hey it could be worse I could not be able to play games in the first place so I can deal with my debuff.
Genuinely tho it hurt now understanding what some people must be talking about when they say "this games un-playable at 30" after mocking them for years, God said SHUT TF UP to me and I've taken it personally lol.
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u/quaintlogic H2 Flow | 9800X3D | Sapphire Pure 9070 XT | 32GB | 2TB 22h ago
I guess it comes down to every person but I've noticed lower frame rates on a 3D, "high fidelity" game is far more noticeable and jarring than low FPS would be on an isometric or 2d game.
I don't notice lower FPS as much on games like Factorio, rimworld or OpenTTD but I REALLY notice small drops on things like BeamNG, Dota, Battlefield, GTA etc.
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u/DeeJudanne 7800XT | 32gb ram | r7 5700x3d 21h ago
if you only get 25 fps if you had 15 before after paying 2 grand you got scammed as hell
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u/Necrologist92 1d ago
%? Ok 10% of 20 is 2, 10% of 120 is 12. Does it help now?
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u/wassimSDN i7 13650hx | 5060m 1d ago
give the performance increase in %. not whatever it is you're doing here.
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u/FarseerEnki 18h ago
Is 11 frames a lot? It depends on how many you had before. If you already had 144 frames, not really. But if you only had 23 frames, then definitely lmao
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
That was literally me with a 4080S looking at the 5080 on release. Aside from the AI stuff, it's like 13% faster in general. Which is like one good OC.
Generational leap my ass.
Edit: Looking at the TDP of those cards - 320W vs 360W, might as well just be a brute forced performance uplift.
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u/marcusbrothers 1d ago
The 5080 wasn’t for you though, you don’t have to upgrade every generation.
I went from a 2060S to a 5080 and it’s probably the best upgrade I’ve ever done.
Generational leap(s) some would say.
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
I know, doesn't mean it's not the worst generational uplift
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u/ISniffFeet1 285K - 5070ti - 64GB 6400 1d ago
I don't think it is the worst generational uplift - especially with dlss5 support.
People can internet complain all they want, but dlss5 looks visually appealing and is a good feature to have
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
We're talking here pure rasterisation, not hallucinations
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u/Schneller52 9800X3D-5090-64GB | 5900XT-5080-32GB | 5800X-3080-32GB 18h ago
Since you brought up OCing, the 5080 has substantial overlocking headroom to widen the gap significantly from the 4080S closer to 25-30%, especially at 4k resolution. Whereas the 4080S is already toward top of its timings. In rasterization I would say it’s a respectable leap from a Super variant mid-cycle refresh. The area where it can be criticized more accurately is that it did not come with more vram.
But as others have said, no one should ever be looking at going from a Super to the very next release of the same tier card lol. That’s just silly.
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u/bawzstatuz 1d ago
Don't forget the chance of your GPU catching on fire.
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
Damn, I forgot about that one. Ok thats a cool party trick worth the price.
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u/Average_Sized_Jim 23h ago
The 40 series to 50 series was and is a brute force upgrade. They are manufactured on the same process.
There was a large uplift from the 30 to 40 series, though, which I have experienced personally. The performance improvement between my 3090ti and 5090 is very impressive.
Also, as an aside. Do not get into 4k gaming if you have not already. It is a trap.
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u/Rosea96 1d ago
Cuz you have 4080 super and super replaced TI that would be crazy to upgrade.
It mean to be replaced like every third/second gen and to be real it can last longer.
I went from 1080 TI to 4080 so that 5 year.
From 4080 to 5080 it can be worth for same people cuz it is aroud 45% boost.
Other went -
980 -1080 20%
1080 - 2080 30%
2080 - 3080 50%
3080 - 4080 50%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5SS1GNrs_Y
So it is not bad and I have feeling it will get only worst with price during next 5 year, so not bad upgrade.
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
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u/Rosea96 1d ago
But depend how true it is, it showing 4090 is superior to 5080 by 18% yet in benchmarks what I saw it is not even 10%
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u/HeriPiotr 7800X3D | 4080 S | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
Well I personally trust Techpowerup more than some rando on YT.
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u/Dreamo84 1d ago
If I'm currently getting 49FPS that's a good deal. If I'm currently getting 120fps it's not so much a good deal.
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u/avidvaulter Ryzen 9 9950X3D | RTX 5090 | 34" @ 3440x1440 19h ago
Depends on the screen. 5k2k with a 5090 will struggle to hit 144fps without mfg but if you have a 3440x1440 screen, you'll hit it consistently in pretty much every game just using 2x fg.
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u/The-Frugal-Engineer 1d ago
My GPU died and I am taking advantage of my dusty Steam deck LCD to finish all my catalog in steam. It's a simple and happy gaming experience. Not changing PCs until the ai madness is over
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u/scamp4666 1d ago
The first digit of that price tag follows the Fibonacci sequence and increments once a year
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u/SnowTitan77 19h ago
I went from a 1660 super to a 3080 a few weeks ago and I feel like I’ve entered the space age
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u/Thisismyredusername GTX 1660 Ti | i5-9400F | 16 GB Vengeance LPX | 1 TB 990 EVO Plus 19h ago
Why are you buying a 5070 Ti when you already have a ... wait, ehich card does OP have again?
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u/bingbing304 16h ago
But AI will insert 100% of those frames between every real frame , you just need to pay extra this feature because we only make it available on our latest hardware. LOL
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u/StyleApprehensive925 14h ago
Then nvidia adds dlss5 and you lose half of your currently FPS.
The table, i mean, nvidia always win.
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u/Rave_Lord It burns the skin off my leg every time i boot borderlands 6h ago
and an AI filter that takes half.
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u/Warcraft_Fan Paid for WinRAR! 5h ago
Joke's on you. I went with AMD. Got more FPS and saved about $2500.
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u/Nerdrage27 MSI 5070Ti VanguardSOC, 9850X3D, 32GB 6400MHz CL32, 2TB, 4K OLED 1d ago
You take that deal? I'd take that deal. Damn good deal - Hans Landa
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u/ConnectBasil5421 20h ago
You guys keep making memes about this stuff yet the 2000 dollar gpus keep getting soldÂ
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u/A17012022 Desktop-Ryzen 9800XD +32GB Ram+5070ti 1d ago
Jokes on you, I went from a 1070ti to a 5070ti.
Now that's a change.
And with the current state of hardware and my life, this is probably my last pc lol
EDIT: that sounds ominous, I mean I am nearly 40 with a wife and child. I do not have the time or money anymore to fuck about with Nvidia price hikes.