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u/Few_Kitchen_4825 Jul 10 '26
Micron, Hynix and samsung
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u/Aldrai Specs/Imgur here Jul 10 '26
SanDisk would like to join.
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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB | 4k OLED Jul 10 '26
What's with Sandisk?
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u/Aldrai Specs/Imgur here Jul 10 '26
They're on the AI bandwagon too. They're a huge memory supplier.
Unless I completely missed the point of the meme. 😅
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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB | 4k OLED Jul 10 '26
Does Sandisk even produce chips? Most memory for data centers is bought straight from the chip manufacturer. Also memory resellers don't get much since they still buy from those 3 at stupid prices.
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u/MasonicManx2 Jul 10 '26
Its moreso the Storage. Demands are high and this has caused Storage to skyrocket as well. Once upon a time. A 1TB NVME was reasonably priced. Nowadays. Its over 100, and depending on the type of drive, 200 per TB.
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u/SmashesIt Specs/Imgur here Jul 10 '26
Storage prices are way too high compared to what they were 3 years ago even
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u/MasonicManx2 Jul 10 '26
Tell me about it. I got 2 18TB hard drives from Server Part Deals for 360 after tax. 10 bucks per TB only 2 years ago. Now just one of those same drives are priced at 450...
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u/Consistent-Cost-231 Jul 10 '26
That's a lot of porn sir
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u/MasonicManx2 Jul 10 '26
Nope. Just a ton of 4K Blu Ray rips. What can I say? Im a quality snob. Lol
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u/SmashesIt Specs/Imgur here Jul 10 '26
Been searching for drives for a new NVR and ended up sourcing two used 2TB Exos for now and just gonna wait till I can replace them with something bigger once prices come down... if ever
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u/Shark7996 Jul 10 '26
In December of 2024 I got a 4TB Samsung EVO 990 plus for $250.
It is now $721.
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u/rditorx Jul 10 '26
If you invested $1,000 in SanDisk shares 12 months ago, you could sell for about $39,500 now.
If you sold them 3 weeks ago, you'd have $46,500.
With Micron, you'd only have $8,200.
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u/B_pudding Jul 10 '26
I've read that even DDR4 RAM prices will skyrocket because it's the only way to get a 32 GB system without having to sell your kidneys.
PC gaming is and always an expensive hobby but the next years will be pure horror.
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u/bullseye11b Jul 10 '26
Wait so my ddr4 32gb 3200 cl 10 is good again?
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u/B_pudding Jul 10 '26
That's basically a Mercedes-Benz now. ;)
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u/MacabreYuki Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
then what's my 2x16GB DDR5-5200 CL40 that I got at the end of 2024 and then got the feeling I dodged a bullet on?
Edit: Holy crap, it went from like 100 usd to like 460.
Ok, I'm looking at my ram like:
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u/undefined-username Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Havent they already? When I built my pc in 2022 I went with two 2x16 gb ddr4 3600 cl 14 kits (no they don't play nice with each other. Had to do manual timings, was a nightmare getting them stable). I bought them for $99 ea. Just looked them up the same kits are selling for $350 on ebay right now.
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u/Pasi123 i9-9980XE, RTX5070, 128GB | 3700X, GTX1080, 32GB Jul 10 '26
My second 2x 32GB DDR4-3200 kit was 130€ in 2024. Now the same kit is 650€
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u/mata_dan Jul 10 '26
PC gaming is and always an expensive hobby but the next years will be pure horror.
It was actually cheaper, depending how much you gamed (i.e. new game purchase and not paying a sub to play online using your own connection P2P like on consoles), from about 2008 to about 2014
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u/Omotai Jul 10 '26
Unfortunately for everyone, that also affects the price of the PS6. And everything else in the world that has memory in it.
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u/PrinceVincOnYT Desktop 13700k/RTX4080/32GB DDR5/10 TB SSD Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
but Sony is known to be willing to sell Consoles for a loss anywayto make up for in subscriptions and their new closed market.24
u/hempires R5 5600X | RTX 3070 Jul 10 '26
Didn't they come out like the other week and say that they aren't planning on doing the PS6 as a loss leader?
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u/SOSpammy iMac 2017 i5-7500, Radeon 570 Pro, 32GB DDR4 Jul 10 '26
They said they didn't want to take a big loss on each sold. Doesn't mean they can't sell it slightly subsidized or at a smaller profit margin than a PC.
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u/Inclinedbenchpress RTX 3070 | Ryzen 5 3600 | 16gb Jul 10 '26
Yep, also subsidized. But it won’t be surprising at all to see new gen consoles at $ 1000 retail prices. Which is a huge jump from current gen… we could get digital ps5 for $400 and even lower at some points. We’re all fucked
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u/360_face_palm Jul 10 '26
I don't think 1 grand games consoles will do that well - I mean we've already kinda seen this with the ps5-pro's lacklustre numbers.
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u/InfiniteLoopDream Jul 10 '26
I honestly don't think we are getting consoles any time soon. Or if we do, games will be sold as PS5 compatible for a lot longer than ps4 compatible, as adoption rate will be super low with those high prices.
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u/Acid-Ghoul Jul 10 '26
Sony also said recently that they'll no longer be doing that
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u/cahir11 Jul 10 '26
Yeah I just checked how much it would cost to replace the 64GB of RAM in my system, only about $919 lol
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u/Mr_ToDo Jul 10 '26
Just before the spike I had been pricing out 1tb+ RAM machines. I really, really, don't want to look at them right now(It had been around 10k for the ebay special, and 20k+ new)
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u/Suikerspin_Ei R5 7600 | RTX 3060 | 32GB DDR5 6000 MT/s Jul 10 '26
About that, MSI released new BIOS that are optimized for CXMT DDR5.
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u/ShirtSpecial3623 PC Master Race Jul 10 '26
even with the RAM crisis, PC is better investment in long term
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u/moarwineprs Jul 10 '26
That would depend. I built a new computer at the end of 2024. All parts + OS for the PC (sans peripherals) came out to be a little under $3500, which sounds crazy. But with how much prices have risen for not just hardware but just about everything else in life, it's been a good investment for me: Got the hardware before prices skyrocketed and I (hopefully) have a Pc that'll last me 10 years for all my gaming.
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u/BitCompetitive6542 Jul 10 '26
That is only a decision the individual can make, and in my case, no it wouldn’t be.
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u/Skazzy3 R7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 Jul 10 '26
I feel like I've seen this meme again and again since the Xbox 360 days
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u/Additional_Power9445 Jul 10 '26
ironic me posting this on a subreddit called r/pcmasterrace, but genuinely why has it always been this thing where a lot of pc players are so smug about having “the superior way to play”? yes, performance-wise of course everything is going to be better on pc. but this is ignoring the accessibility of consoles and their easy learning curve for games, AS WELL as the fact that most triple A games are made with console gamers in mind and only optimized for pc a couple years after their initial release. i have an over $2k setup and have been playing on pc for a long time, but it just reeks of coping and trying to justify spending thousands of dollars on something that has a good amount of disadvantages to a much cheaper option
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u/Demonikaaaaa Ryzen 7 260 | 5070 mobile | 64GB DDR5 Jul 10 '26
People like to feel like they're better than everyone, especially in gaming communities. Apple-samsung, xbox-playstation, windows-linux for example (couldn't think of more). What matters is that you enjoy what you do with your device of choice.
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u/SordidDreams Jul 10 '26
Apple-samsung, xbox-playstation, windows-linux for example (couldn't think of more).
Steam - every other distribution platform, especially Epic.
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u/SwissQueso Mac Heathen Jul 10 '26
I really wish GoG was better.
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u/SordidDreams Jul 10 '26
I don't think there's much left to improve other than the selection of games on offer, and that's not up to GOG. Most publishers don't release on GOG because they're unwilling to give up that sweet, sweet DRM.
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u/SwissQueso Mac Heathen Jul 10 '26
I use GeForce Now, and it’s not an available storefront on there. That’s honestly my biggest gripe. I also don’t think it does cloud saves, but that’s not really a game breaker for me
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u/IThinkImNateDogg Desktop Jul 10 '26
All I see on this and the gaming sub is a bunch of PC guys who cannot fathom their would be ANY reason to buy a console over a PC if it isn’t for physical media or exclusives.
Cannot fathom that a console come complete out of the box, takes not setup, works all day everyday, no windows updates or driver updates, all in one party, friend and game chat system.
On top of that they all hardware and supply chain logistics gods and know how much the next console is going to cost (they all swear it will be over a grand) and that no one can afford it.
The next gen consoles will sell out day one and no the cost isn’t going to matter. A few less people might not buy PS6, and instead buy a Helix or a PC.
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u/dookarion Jul 10 '26
All I see on this and the gaming sub is a bunch of PC guys who cannot fathom their would be ANY reason to buy a console over a PC if it isn’t for physical media or exclusives.
A number do. A number also used to push back against the bullshit narrative that a $500 PC was competitive with a $500 console. They're usually downvoted all the same if they aren't bending over for Sony on every topic though.
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u/NYC_Noguestlist Jul 10 '26
My thing also is that I don't want to set all that shit up and have to deal with rampant cheating in every game. It's starting to infest consoles now because of cross-play, but it's magnitudes worse on PC (literally can't play a lot of older CODs because they've been mega hacked). That's why I can't take people who don't see the very real issues with PC gaming seriously.
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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 10 '26
Don't forget the inability to recognize that most console players are already buying digital games over physical games despite themselves exclusively buying digital PC games from Steam.
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u/Declooon Jul 10 '26
Yeah I have a pc that cost me around 2k a few years back and while it obviously has superior specs to my ps5, I 100% experience more issues with games old and new on my PC. Consoles are great for cosy gaming and just knowing the game will work (for the most part)
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u/WeevilWeedWizard Jul 10 '26
Because they're complete losers with absolutely zero real accomplishments or relationships in real life.
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u/DMmeNoiceTits Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Yeah. People shouldn’t feel superior about having a pc. I was about to argue with you about the « much cheaper option » since pc components are 347% the price of what it was.
But I’m still debating with myself wether or not what you say is holding up (because you still need to pay for online and games are full price, and will become even more expensive).
I’ll edit when I’m done debating between me and me.
Edit : you’re totally right about everything. PC components aren’t even at their highest. I felt like Valve was sitting on a gold mine with their Steam Machine… But they announced the price and… Yeah
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u/Spare-Floor-3666 Jul 10 '26
do... do you think console stores don't have sales?
Do you know what a used game is? (admittedly this argument will only hold up for a couple more years)
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u/UncleCrassiusCurio Jul 10 '26
do... do you think console stores don't have sales?
I'm a longtime console gamer and fairly recent PC-adjacent gamer via ROG Ally, and I was told for years how great PC sales are, so I was excited to get some deals, and... Three Steam seasonal sales on, every price in those sales is consistently met on the Playstation store.
"Full price games, lol, couldn't be me, a PC gamer enjoying every game I wand for $3" is full-on industrial-stength copium.
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u/Vladimir_Djorjdevic r5 3600 | 32GB | RTX 3060 ti Jul 10 '26
And it's kinda been true. PC is now considerably more popular than consoles. Steam now has 200 million monthly active users, which is 50% more than playstation (that is PS5 and PS4 combined) and Xbox's market share isn't that big anymore
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u/jfk_47 Jul 10 '26
Yeppers
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u/TerrorTown77 Jul 10 '26
Reddit never represents popular consensus. This meme is pretty much evidence I should buy Sony stock and see it go x10 in the next 5 years.
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u/Wild-Berry-5269 Jul 10 '26
All these console players going to PC will surely do nothing to increase prices even more...
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u/CastlePokemetroid Jul 10 '26
I'd argue it's more likely they stay on PS5
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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 Jul 10 '26
Lot of players still on PS4 even now. So I can see lots just stocking with PS5 due to the piece.
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u/Dull_Quit3027 Jul 10 '26
Yeah a couple of games that i want to play came out as ps 5 exclusives, so i decided to look into buying a ps 5 Pro.
Price is still between 1000-1200 dollars if i convert from my local currency, not going to spend that to play 2-3 games.
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u/IceKrabby Steam Deck + 5070 LPT Jul 10 '26
Not surprising, the PS5 Pro went way up in price recently.
Frankly I kinda regret not selling my OG PS5 and getting the PS5 Pro closer to the latter's release.
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u/krunnky Ryzen 9 5900x - RTX 4080 Jul 10 '26
I nearly did that before the price increase. Then, I realized just how many times I looked at the PS store for 30m, didn't buy anything, and shut off the console. They just don't have enough games that I want to play. The big money that got invested into gaming during the covid spike in demand was all dumped into failed live service games and it sure felt like a massive drought of quality games this entire generation.
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u/Spotttty Jul 10 '26
I only bought a PS5 late last year so that I could play UHD discs for watching movies in the theater I built. It was only about $200 more than an actual disc player and now I can play the exclusives.
I can’t see any reason I would ever buy a PS6. It will be the first PlayStation I probably don’t buy.
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u/ScuffedGoats 9850X3D, RTX 5080, 32 GB DDR5 6000 MT/s cl30, 4 TB M.2 SSD Jul 10 '26
still have my PS4 Pro... havent used it in over 2 years... but it is there...
and as you can see by my flair... im not on console anymore...
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u/Disastrous-Fennel970 7800X3D/9070XT/64GB Jul 10 '26
Moved my wife and I from ps5 to pc a month or so ago, very glad I did
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u/SinZerius Jul 10 '26
How much did it go for? I am thinking about getting a new one since my 3070 is starting to feel it but the component prices scared me off that idea.
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u/infidel11990 Ryzen 7 5700X | RTX 4070Ti Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Very few console players are going to switch to PCs. We like to believe that can happen, but if you speak to console users, you will have a better idea of the actual reality of it.
Console users care for ease of use, up front costs, couch gaming and are often tied to a particular brand and exclusives.
PC gaming is becoming prohibitively expensive these days and the kind of stuff we love about PCs, such as versatility, power, flexibility and upgradability etc., does not appeal to the same extent to a console first gamer.
Edit: Adding the fact that I have both a PC and a PS5. The latter has been collecting dust for the past couple years, and the last game I played on it was Ghost of Tshushima Director's Cut. I might play GTA VI on it. But otherwise, all my gaming is on PC these days.
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u/Hiiiro_0 Jul 10 '26
The most accurate statement here.
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u/WeBelieveIn4 Jul 10 '26
Describes me perfectly. I’m too lazy to PC game. If Sony fucks up the PS6 via pricing and lack of discs I’ll just quit gaming once the PS5 is no longer supported.
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u/Hiiiro_0 Jul 10 '26
Yeah. If the moneywise thing becomes being healthier and not gaming, then we all getting healthier. Lol
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u/Mythaminator Jul 10 '26
To your point, I got a golf membership for 800$ this year. Sure gaming systems are cheeper in the long run but last year it cost half a membership to own a console and now it costs the same.
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u/Frequent-Blueberry80 4080 super, Ryzen 5 7600X, 32GB DDR5 RAM, 1440P 180Hz Jul 10 '26
Not only the ease of use as in no need to install OS, drivers or software, but also the fact that they do not need to know anything about the performance levels of different components. A game says their preferred console ? They can play it. Instead on PC, you need to check the requirements sheet and understand how the components mentioned in the sheet compares to the components in your PC. It sure is a small commitment to understand at a glance, can you run a game, and at what level you can.
Only way to get around this constant checking of requirements sheet is to cave in and buy the latest and greatest setup every now and then. By doing so, you ensure you can run any game there is. And that can lead to spending silly amounts of money, so it might not be a reasonable thing to do.
PC gaming is for enthusiasts, or at least for those who are more into studying. You need to figure out specs, you need to learn where to safely get games, what you need to install to do what you want on PC. After overcoming the initial learning curve, you can get the system to be on the level of easiness as consoles if you so desire. Like you can set steam to launch on boot, to launch in big picture mode and set your OS to autologin. This way you get the console experience of just turning your system on, grabbing a controller and laying comfortably in your sofa to play some games.
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u/infidel11990 Ryzen 7 5700X | RTX 4070Ti Jul 10 '26
Your first para para is on point. I own a PS5 as well, but jave hardly used it at all since I bought it in 2021.
On the PC, messing with quality settings is actufun for me. I do that for each new game I play and spend time optimizing my experience.
That's not what console users are looing for at all.
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u/Correct-Purpose-964 Jul 10 '26
I'd go one step further as to point out that games on consoles tend to be made backwards compatible for at least a generation meaning you don't need to keep up with hardware to use the software unless you want to enter into the next gen.
Where-as PC is constantly upgrading to the next generation increasing the requirements on PC owners over and over again. So it's an incremental cost you have to account for. I couldn't keep up with that cost. i've had the same console for 8 years. No changes. Forked out for a Ps5 so i can play the current gen games i wanna play. $500 vs $500= just for the base components of a decent PC at least where i live. Affordability really does play a big factor for some of us.
I like to huff copium and believe one day i can afford a PC but for now I'll stick with me Ps5 until the ps8 comes out lol
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u/Rosti_LFC Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I dunno, I tend to upgrade my PC once every 6-7 years and that generally works out for me. I'm also not buying the absolute best kit each generation and I'm still getting that sort of longevity. Most new releases will still work on specs that would be considered a good PC 8 years ago.
In 2011 I bought a gaming PC with GTX 550 Ti, in total it cost me about £800. Around 2014 I upgraded the GPU to a GTX 770, don't know what I paid but about £300. This lasted me until the end of 2020 when I got a new mobo, CPU and RTX 3070 for Cyberpunk 2077, at a cost of ~£1000. That's the PC I still have now in 2026 and it still works fine for new titles, albeit I generally can't expect to run things on high graphics settings.
I'd also note my 2016 spec build could still run Cyberpunk 2077 smoothly on low-ish graphics, and my wife still uses it as her gaming PC ten years later because the stuff she plays generally isn't demanding on hardware. Buying a launch PS4 (£350) and PS5 (£450) over the same period is definitely cheaper, about half the cost, but games cost more and you've also got to pay an annual subscription to play online.
If you care about always being able to play on bleeding edge graphic settings then constant PC upgrades get very expensive, but if you're happy just hitting a level of graphics that is comparable or better to what you typically get on a console anyway then it can be a lot more affordable and the timings between buying new parts are on a similar scale to console generations.
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u/Angryfunnydog Jul 10 '26
I don’t think that much console players will switch to pc
Good pc cost magnitude more than console at the very least
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u/Cerenas Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Radeon RX 9070 XT Jul 10 '26
If next gen consoles are going to be as expensive as people expect them to be (and PC parts staying as expensive because of AI), I think a lot of casual console gamers will just stop altogether, or stay on last gen.
Gaming (pc or console) will be out of reach for a lot of people
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u/Velokieken Jul 10 '26
Prices of the currently discounted pre builds and gaming laptops aren’t nuts. Most of them are a bit stronger than the Steam machine. But those could be the last good deals. (1000 to 1500 for something that’s ok if you don’t play 4K at high settings). They are a lot faster than my 2020 gaming laptop.
I hope these things stay around, they make and sell those in high volumes, also much higher than the Steam machine. They come with bloat but you can get rid of that and you don’t need to think about drivers etc …
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u/atishay001001 Ryzen 5700X3D | RX 6700XT | 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Jul 10 '26
Console players : sony is discontinuing discs fk that I am switching to pc, looks up pc prices... fk that I am staying with my ps5
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u/ForensicPathology Jul 10 '26
Console players: Sony is discontinuing discs, guess I'll switch to PC which famously still uses discs, right??
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u/gophergun 5700X3D / 5070 Jul 10 '26
Unless they're buying both, the overall demand for hardware should be about the same.
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u/Rith_Reddit PC Master Race Jul 10 '26
Get off the gaming chair mate, let's go outside.
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u/EnSebastif Jul 10 '26
Yep, with these prices, if my PC gives up I'll go back to nature, roam the forests and the hills. Fuck technology, fuck money, fuck all this greed.
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u/Rith_Reddit PC Master Race Jul 10 '26
Pretty much same boat. Im hoping my 6 year old PC can outlast this chaos. But its already showing signs of wear n tear.
Nature will be calling me too.
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u/EnSebastif Jul 10 '26
Dude, 6 year old PC here too, with a second hand 2080 super. Once it gives up it will be the end.
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u/binary_spaniard Jul 10 '26
Fuck Technology, fuck money; Let's return to monkey.
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u/ZealousidealHall8975 Jul 10 '26
Shit I’m pretty sure I can sell my extremely used PC for a profit right now.
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u/RefactoringSelf Jul 10 '26
I feel existentially exhausted from all of this technology and craziness and yet I'm hopelessly addicted to it.
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u/No_Material_9508 Jul 10 '26
Just pull the plug (from the pc, just to be clear) yourself and go there. There's nothing wrong with playing some games once in a while, but spending time in nature or excercising gives you so much more than playing games. That's my experience.
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u/SentientToaster7734 Jul 10 '26
Recently bought a new gravel bike instead of a new GPU. Well worth it!
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u/LockeNarshe72 Jul 10 '26
I just decided to get into other hobbies honestly.
I started picking up RC stuff. Also got into gunpla (pretty cheap and fairly time consuming, all things considered) and figurine collecting, and started picking up more CDs for my favorite bands. Started reading more too.
Pretty much all the things not too heavily impacted (or not impacted at all) by this craziness. I can be more present in the real world, too.
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u/BlueClovr Jul 10 '26
What show is this from? I see this all the time
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u/Rith_Reddit PC Master Race Jul 10 '26
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u/Relaxel RTX 4080S - Ryzen 9800x3D - 64GB DDR5 - 240HZ 1440p Jul 10 '26
This sub is so delusional sometimes.
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u/Phearwyn Jul 10 '26
Exactly.
If ps players don't want ps because ps price increase, why the fuck would they jump to pc when pc has never been more expensive for ram and graphics cards.
If ps players don't want ps because ps has no physical discs, why the fuck would they jump to pc when steam has no physical discs.
OP is dumb.
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u/FuckMeMyselfAndYou Jul 10 '26
I see it more as a gain for Nintendo since Microsoft might follow along the no disc thing.
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u/Wubblewobblez Jul 11 '26
It’s the idea of moving from a restricted platform to a more “freerer” one
Yeah there is a cost increase but if it means not being in the Sony ecosystem
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u/PrimeIntellect Jul 10 '26
I'm at a loss for what this is even supposed to mean, PS5 isn't using physical media so upset people will go to...a format that abandoned physical media? And is even more expensive?
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u/GreatValueUser Jul 10 '26
Most game copies sold are digital anyway 🤷♂️
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u/Sleepinismy9to5 Jul 10 '26
Almost 100% of PC games are digital
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u/HereReluctantly Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Yeah this is the hilarious part. Someone is pissed about lack of physical media so they come to the platform that has had zero physical media for years and has been celebrating it.
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u/Not_Wrong_Tho Jul 10 '26
"I'm upset about price of the hardware and lack of physical media, therefore i'm going to move over to the platform known for it's higher hardware prices and lack of physical media!"
Said nobody.
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u/rifain Jul 10 '26
Oh yes. PS6 will still sell by millions. PC and consoles have different market targets. This meme is rather unrealistic. Most people won't want the hassle of having a pc for casual gaming. And for those who say that PC is easy and comparable, they are not.
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u/lord_mercernary Jul 10 '26
Well not accurate. Cause PC components are kinda crazy expensive rn except for maybe the motherboard & cpu. Also its worse than 2020 cause everything affected by AI ram slop
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u/FaceTransplant Jul 10 '26
Also not accurate because plenty of people STILL use the PS4 six years later, and they definitely didn't abandon it en mass in 2020.
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u/Sizeable-Scrotum FreeBSD 15 KDE / Fedora KDE/12700KF/7800 XT/32GB D4 Jul 10 '26
I actually bought one last month. They're pretty cheap now and a PS4 game will always run fine on a PS4 no matter how old it is.
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u/Velokieken Jul 10 '26
PS4 are dirt cheap over here. When I bought my PS5 the PS4 pro wasn’t much cheaper but the disc PS5 is now 650 euros here and PS4 are under a 100. It’s actually one of the best deals, the library is massive and it’s not like the graphics are horrible, it’s similar to the Switch 2. OG Switch is 300 is 3 times the price of a PS4 …
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u/ZiaQwin Jul 10 '26
100?! I regret not getting a PS4 Pro when it was still available and now the cheapest ones are 300-400€!
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u/XSmooth84 Jul 10 '26
RDR2 made my PS4 pro sound like a jet engine about to take off.
RDR2 on PS5 is silent
Going to PS5 to play PS4 games is the way.
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u/Sizeable-Scrotum FreeBSD 15 KDE / Fedora KDE/12700KF/7800 XT/32GB D4 Jul 10 '26
Except that a PS5 now costs €600 and a PS4 Pro was €180 for me
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u/JagggermanJansen Jul 10 '26
That's like 5% of a 5090
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u/Sizeable-Scrotum FreeBSD 15 KDE / Fedora KDE/12700KF/7800 XT/32GB D4 Jul 10 '26
And way more fun than a loose 5090
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u/JagggermanJansen Jul 10 '26
That it is. Though I don't regret selling mine and being PC only afterwards. PS plus was still 60 bucks a year then.
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u/Urmomsfavouritelol Jul 10 '26
To be perfectly fair, at least in my experience, PS4s sound like jet engines regardless of what you're doing since most people don't bother to clean their consoles. Hell, even with a freshly cleaned PS4 and playing without a disc it'd be close to the volume of my 360 while it would be spinning a disc.
Then on the other hand my Xbox One has what I assume to be coil whine from the internal PSU and the HDD is possibly dying since it's second hand and old. Should probably replace those soon lol
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u/AriAkeha Ryzen 5 5600H | RTX 3060 Jul 10 '26
True, it's actually helping Steam Machine, because you got "both" in one and it could be more appealing to the new consumer and more familiar at the same time
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u/ThunderEagle222 Jul 10 '26
Nah not really. People pretend the vast majority of people are angry at Sony for removing phisical disc cuz a loud minority is screaming on the internet. But lets be real, this will end up just like apple removing the headphone jack. Normies simply don't give a shit.
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u/Cyberfreshman Jul 10 '26
I'm still complaining about the headphone jack.
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u/MusicOfTheSphere Jul 10 '26
Same. Have purchased and lost several of the stupid little adapter thingies and thost splitters that allow you to charge at the same time. When there could just be a separate hole if it were designed better.
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u/Mr_Hassel Jul 10 '26
Majority of PC gamers buy their games on steam. I don't remember the last time I bought a PC game with a CD. My PC doesn't even have a CD reader LOL
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u/MonkeyAssFucker Desktop Jul 10 '26
Yup, this was done because of market trends. They have the data and can see that people aren’t really buying disks enough anymore.
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u/Cavalish Jul 10 '26
“Vote with your wallet”
90% of people vote for digital sales
“No not like that”
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u/f3rny Jul 10 '26
I really don't understand the OP point, he thinks playstation users angry that playstation is not going to sells discs anymore are going to move to PC... That doesn't have fisical discs since way earlier?
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u/LordDaveTheKind Linux Master Race (RX 9070XT) Jul 10 '26
You don't understand it because it simply makes 0 sense indeed.
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u/TeddyFromBobs Jul 10 '26
Also, if you go on PlayStation right now, all the top games are Fortnite, roblox, call of duty, marvel rivals, sports games (that come out each year).
Like the PlayStation big audience are not using discs.
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u/Air_Hair_Lair Jul 10 '26
My 1st time commenting on the subject. My PS5 is already the digital only version. With all the patches and fixes required on games, I just assumed the current discs barely had a finished game on them anyway.
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u/BuggyYonko Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I have got a PS5 and a PC. I built my PC before prices got as crazy as they are now. If I only had a PS5 today, I honestly don't know if I'd build a PC at current prices. I'd probably just stick with my PS5.
I also doubt the PS6 will sell poorly. If you spend enough time online, you would think no one is going to buy a PS6. But reality is often very different.
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u/somekindofswede R9 7900X | RX 7900 XTX Jul 10 '26
Yeah, same. I have both a decent PC and a PS5.
If I had to start over from scratch in the current market, I’d just get a PS5 and call it a day.
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I have both and my ps5 spends most of its time gathering dust. I basically just use it to watch Plex in my theatre room.
You definitely made the right call building a PC early.
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u/Michaeli_Starky Jul 10 '26
It's wild to assume that people are choosing consoles because of physical disks.
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u/ParanMekhar Jul 10 '26
Yeah no. For a number of reasons
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u/FarplaneDragon Desktop Jul 10 '26
Yah, it's missing the line of redditors entering the left door who are currently swearing up and down that they'll never buy a PS6
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u/John_East 9800x3D : RTX5080 OC : 32Gb of Downloaded RAM Jul 10 '26
Right cuz console players definitely weren’t buying mostly digital. Physical copies are definitely selling in stores
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u/ThunderEagle222 Jul 10 '26
My last phisical PC game I ever bought was Doom Ethernal.
It had a piece of cardboard inside with a download code.
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u/Maleficent-Corgi-265 Jul 10 '26
Counter strike 1.6 World of Warcraft (The burning crusades) expansion
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u/Choice_Elephant_8235 Jul 10 '26
You can even look it up in Sonys Corporate business report. Physical makes 3% of their revenue and Digital 20%. No dlc and stuff is not included in that it's separate category Add-on and makes up 29%
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u/Remarkable_Fly8471 Jul 10 '26
Who even makes this shit up and believes it who even knows how pc parts will be worth in 2028 it would make more sense for people to buy project helix .
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u/TheDregn R9 9950X3D | 5070Ti | 96GB DDR5 Jul 10 '26
I know it's just a meme, but ppl are way overestimating the weight of ppl who care about physical disk or care so mich, that they just purchase a 2000€ gaming ring, to play digital as well.
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u/Specialist-Opening69 Jul 10 '26
The price of PCs and the simplicity of console will always keep PC off the mainstream.
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u/ChloeQuickFlicks Jul 10 '26
Remember when the top smartphone manufacturers started removing the 3.5 mm headphone plug from their future phone models, amd Reddit had a complete meltdown and swore to only buy phones from obscure phone manufacturers that still produced phones with a headphone plug? Yeah, this all seems very reminiscent. People will have adapted and moved on within Q1 of next year..... I'm excited to see what the next 6 month outrage will be about.
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u/js-sey Jul 10 '26
Your average console user does not care about physical copies and with the release of gta 6 right around the corner i highly doubt a mass migration of console players to pc.
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u/teriyakininja7 Jul 10 '26
This entire ordeal interesting to me because PC gaming is predominantly, or even solely, digital these days. I get that it’s to protest against Sony but their alternate chosen gaming platform hasn’t really used discs for gaming far longer than consoles have.
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u/Signal_Purpose9951 14900k | RTX 4080 Super | 64GB DDR5 6600MT/s Jul 10 '26
idk for bed rotting i still prefer ps5, maybe if microslop enhances console mode, or nvidia start supporting linux better
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u/Kaze_Tora Jul 10 '26
I am waiting on that Linux change so much, my nvidia laptop would be awesome HTPC then 🙁 But for bed rotting you can do this setup, not super easy but not too complicated either:
1 - set your PC to turn on when power is detected
2 - plug it to smart outlet that you can turn on remotely, (or maybe you can get CEC to work with TV somehow.)
3 - enable steam big picture autostart, set your controller for mouse use in steam if needed to do something outside of steam.Still, consoles or just waaay more convenient, and that is still hard to beat without at least basic tech knowledge.
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u/Fickle_Mix_6119 Jul 10 '26
As much as I love my PC more than my consoles….
These people on social media make up less than 1% of PlayStation’s monthly active players. The petition has 250k signatures which is about 0.2% of the active players.
Meanwhile GTA6(digital only) is breaking records and selling PS5s like hotcakes so much so that it is causing supply issues with PS5. When GTA 6 gets that next gen upgrade do you think people will hold that integrity? There’s tons of pc players buying PS5s just for GTA6 on launch.
Even if the numbers increase to a considerable amount, do we really want them all coming here when we already suffer with insane prices due to shortages? 😢
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u/dmendro PC Master Race Jul 10 '26
Did no one tell them all PC games are digital and steam could do the same to us at anytime?
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u/usual_suspect82 5800X3D-4080S-32GB DDR4 3600 C16 Jul 10 '26
Honestly, I don't think that's accurate at all. As much as I think Sony's gone full retard, the casuals, and honestly, most people don't care about losing physical releases.
Look at Steam, people are dumping billions on it without a second thought, and there's zero guarantee of long-term ownership since Valve has only "talked" about steps they'd take to ensure you don't lose access, but with the world we live in, licensing, DRM, etc. there's no guarantee even Valve would be able to 100% guarantee you'd get to keep all your purchases. The same, but to a lesser extent is true on the Ubisoft shop, Battle.net, EA's shop, etc. then you take a gander over at GoG, the one true bastion of full ownership, and it isn't seeing anywhere near the business of Steam, or heck, even EGS.
What does that say? That most just don't really care about owning their games like subs on Reddit, or any other social media would have you thinking. Most are probably just buying the games, playing through them, uninstalling and moving on because they don't have any intention of picking the game back up 10 years down the road, if anything, if they do get the itch, they'll probably look for a sequel first and play that versus going back and playing a game they already completed. That's not to say there aren't games that get revisited a lot, but those games are very few and very, very far between, and even then those are niche games that cater to a specific crowd.
Also, with the prices how they are now, not many are willing to drop $2k for a PC versus getting a $600 console that still has access to physical and has access to digital releases. I've already told myself if anything expensive in my PC fails, then I'll be gaming primarily on my Switch 2 until prices come down or I have enough saved to repair it.
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u/Infemos Desktop Jul 10 '26
why does that ps6 image look like a skin applied over a ps4 slim lmfao
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u/Every_Preparation_56 Jul 10 '26
I dont think so, buying a PS6 for 800 bucks or buying a PC for 2500 is not the same. Not in times RAM +SSD are more expensive than a PS
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u/Cartosso Jul 10 '26
Gaming PCs will be 50% more expensive within a year, and probably around 200% more expensive in the next year or two. The AI demand is crazy and will only continue to grow.
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u/jack-of-some Jul 10 '26
The same relative cost changes will apply to consoles.
It's all the same parts.
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u/Elvecio Jul 10 '26
This until you realize after spending 600€ for a 5070 you still need to buy the rest of the build - including RAM - and even if PS6 was at 999 would still be a deal breaker for this market.
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u/Novacain420 Jul 11 '26
Who's buying gaming PC's nowadays with the price of ram so expensive.
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u/Last_Construction455 Jul 13 '26
I used to be a PC gamer but switched back to console with PS3 because I just wanted to load a game and play. Not constantly update this or that.
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u/spawndoorsupervisor Jul 10 '26
This reminds me of all the years this subreddit predicted the downfall of Apple and Nvidia.
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u/unfortunatebag Jul 10 '26
Lol, by 2028 none of those people can afford a PC.
Also only the first 8 people in line get one.
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u/RoadHazard Jul 10 '26
I doubt it. As much as physical being killed sucks, most people don't really care, and a console will still be the more convenient option that gives you more bang for your buck.
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u/Tulip_Todesky Jul 10 '26
Most people won't be able to afford a PC that can run new games in 2028
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u/Dilaocopter Jul 10 '26
because playstation will be digital
only or because it will be very expensive?
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u/oOaurOra Jul 10 '26
Yeah. The people bitching about 90 dollar games are totally going to drop 2k+ on a gaming rig that they have no clue how to use.
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u/TunaBlub Jul 10 '26
If I look at gamers I know.
Not going to happen, some will move, most will not.
I game on everything, mostly pc, a bit of older handhelds and consoles exist for me for "old stuff" or Nintendo.
80%+ PC in my case, never less than that.
You can explain console gamers all the benefits of PC gaming, even cost wise, but also "PC is more than just for gaming".
But 99% of the time they don't fully get it, they will complain about what happens at Sony, complain about PS Plus cost every year (€72 euro a year here) and say "maybe I should switch to PC".
And then... nothing, they get that PS6, and go on from the point they already were at.
Which is fine, but that is why the picture above is (sadly) not going to happen.
And honestly PC gaming can be cheap, but the current market is a mess no matter if PC, console or even smartphones.
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u/NewAgent5986 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Who the fuck can afford to buy hardware rn? lol
I think there's just a lot, "deal with what you have right now", not really anyone lining up to change.
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u/FabulousFlavio Jul 10 '26
Gonna be more like no one is in line for anything because both suck right now lmao.
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u/slamriffs Jul 10 '26
Yeah they won’t want to pay $900 for a PS6 so surely they’ll pay $2400 for a PC!
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u/TomTomXD1234 Jul 10 '26
Ahh yes, a console player will definitely move and spend thousands on a new PC instead of a new console that is way cheaper.
The main reason people play consoles is covenience, affordability, and ease of use
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u/baddazoner Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
people are angry right now but console players are not going to move to PC it's delusional to think they will.
pc is not only more expensive by a mile but if they want a console like experience steam machine is the only option that's just buy and play - and it's expensive and the same power as a base ps5
ps6 will be around the same price as the steam machine and vastly more powerful than it they'll just buy it.
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u/diepiebtd Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Lol i think the reality is both doors are gonna have very little people until prices come down. You can't get a decent console or pc for less then $500 anymore and if you want any computer with specs that'll last more then a year or so your over $1000. Ebay is best place to get pc's at the moment if your lucky. Its honestly sad to see the computer I bought for $600 during cyber Monday 2 years ago is now over $1000 used online. Its rough until retail memory and graphics cards come back down in price.
I would never suggest someone like my dad or my tech illiterate gamer friends to switch from Xbox its just so convenient for them and pc would frustrate them for sure.
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