r/WorkReform • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 16h ago
š° News Georgia farmer Patrick Shivers says he cannot find workers to pick the peas on his farm despite offering free housing with all utilities included plus $1400 a week: "Looks like some of ya'll about to go hungry"
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u/_Repeats_ 16h ago
This guy should pick himself up by his bootstraps and get picking!
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u/Resident_Artist_6486 16h ago edited 15h ago
He's got time to walk through his field and make a video complaining but not enough sense to bend over and pick a pea or at least make a good recruiting video.
Edit: this dude has a youtube channel filled with farming rant videos. Fuck him.
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u/hansn 16h ago
Time to smirk, there's time to work, I say.
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u/EmilioFreshtevez 15h ago
If you got time to kick rants, you got time to pick plants
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u/popgoeskia 15h ago
if you got time to bitch, you have time to pitch.
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u/strictlyphotonic 14h ago
Got time to leg it to other farms, got time to legume your own.
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u/imposter_sauce 14h ago
If you got time to be persnickity you got time to pick da lil peas
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u/HenryBemisJr 15h ago
I can't help but think he grabs dirt and wipes it all over himself to make it look like he has worked hard. He is way too white and non-sunburnt to have picked any bushels himself, maybe he doesn't leave his covered, AC cooled machinary all day. I say this as a person with the same complexion and 30 minutes outside in that sunlight, he and I both would be as red as a lobster.Ā
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u/regoapps āļø Tax The Billionaires 16h ago
He doesnāt want to. So it looks like heās about to go hungry, too.
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u/jdunk2145 16h ago
That's an awful lot of talkin and not a lot of pea pickin.
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u/flora_poste_ 13h ago
That's right. This man, his wife, his children, his brothers and sisters, his parents, his cousins, his aunts and uncles, and every single other person in his extended family should be bent over those plants picking peas all the livelong day, every day. But you can see the rows are deserted.
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u/Kefflin 13h ago
With that whole list, you are like talking about 4 different person total
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u/OkSmoke9195 13h ago
Oh man this made me laugh enough to start coughing again you sob
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u/fileunderaction 12h ago
You donāt understand. He canāt pick peas himself because he has to drive to a dozen other farms so they can circlejerk about how they canāt find workers.
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u/voodoohotdog 16h ago
He forgot to mention the added perk of the possibility of a free trip to who knows where after the ICE raids...
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u/dmcent54 15h ago
That's exactly what I was thinking. This dude looks like the kind of trash who would work migrants for a couple months, then call ICE and brag about it at church. I wonder how his tears taste.
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u/ferns0 14h ago
Right before pay day
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u/tay930 8h ago
My dad was a farmer and he said when a new person would start working for him, sometimes they would be shocked he actually paid them on pay day. So many of his employees were use to working for farmers that would promise to pay them, then come pay day refuse and threaten to call immigration on them if they complained. My dad would tell them as long as they worked for him, they would get paid the amount they agreed on and on the day they agreed on no matter what. That was probably 15-20 years ago now and itās only gotten worse. Can you imagine doing back breaking labor in 100 degree temperatures and not even getting paid the very small amount the farmer promised?
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u/Ok_Instance7667 8h ago
Happened in the currency crisis/economic collapse in Russia in the 90's. There was lots of work - but nobody was getting paid. So if they weren't paid, they stopped working.
One of the few companies in the Tomsk, Siberia region that paid was a Canadian logging company. I learned this when I travelled there in 2010 when I stayed with some couch surfers who basically said they owed their lives to their Father who was able to find work with a company who paid. They main reason they wanted to meet me, was because I was Canadian.
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u/oregiel 15h ago
My brown looking white American ass would never work somewhere that would get me shot and killed or put into a concentration camp by ICE to support a farmer who provided that dictatorship bullshit condition in the first place.
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u/r_special_ 15h ago
Even if you looked white when you started youād be no questions asked based on color only arrestible within a few weeks
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u/Mehdals_ 16h ago
Whys he walking that row without picking as he goes?
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u/Solynox 15h ago
Entitled white man doesnāt work his own fields. That's for the "undesirables", as he'd put it.
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u/iwastryingtokillgod 11h ago
Him and all his farmer neighbirs should get to work.
Team up and pick each other's farms together.
Or buy a machine to do itĀ
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u/BackInMyDaySir šļø Overturn Citizens United 16h ago
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u/winklesnad31 16h ago
That guy should put down his camera, stop bitching, and start picking beans.
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u/CrazyRegion 15h ago
Itās peas actually, but yeah. Less talking, more picking!
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u/UseWhatever šļø Overturn Citizens United 16h ago
Itās funny that farmers think trump wants anything to do with them. They might be millionaires, but theyāre just blue collar to trump.
All these farms will get bought up by corporations (run by real trump guys in suits) and theyāll hire these farmers to manage them at a fraction of their current income.
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u/chzie 15h ago
Small correction, they'll use prison labor from their "partner corporations"
Why pay more than you have too right?
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u/UseWhatever šļø Overturn Citizens United 15h ago
Thatās some top-shelf capitalist thinking right there!
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u/Weird-Information-61 š¤ Join A Union 16h ago
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u/muffpatty 16h ago
I learned this from Farming Simulator.
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u/Weird-Information-61 š¤ Join A Union 16h ago
Oh I didn't know they added peas
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u/1nGirum1musNocte 15h ago
Cuts into his profit margins
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u/porkchop2022 15h ago
As with most investments, pays for itself in a couple of seasons.
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u/dasnoob 15h ago
Yeah but keeps him from buying himself and his wife brand new fully loaded trucks one year.
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u/etzarahh 12h ago
What, you expect him to farm peas without his Ford F-450 Superduty Deluxe with coal-rolling functionality?
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u/TheKingOcelot 15h ago
Ah but you fail to realize that thinking multiple years in advance is REALLY hard for someone who's job revolves around thinking about what season it is.
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u/hurler_jones 15h ago
My understanding is this video is several years old and he has since moved to mechanical harvesters like the one you linked.
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u/ParadeSit 16h ago
Maybe write Trump a letter (or maybe in care of Natalie). Iām sure he and Stephen Miller will get right on it.
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u/Hopeful_Hornet4460 15h ago
The price is just a load of bull seven ways to Sunday. I've spent thenlast two decades of my life working for people who claim to pay well and whine about not having labor and lazy people when... Suprise surprise... They don't actually pay what they say.
Always hemming and hawing about some excuse as to why they can't give you the money as advertised. Even if you picked enough, this kinda asshole would find some way to cheese you out of the money, guaranteed. Make up some excuse about hownthey have tk spread the money across the next four paychecks then fire you before the end of the week.
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u/AgreeAndSubmit 11h ago
And this is exactly why I'll never work for Small Business ever again. No benefits, no 401k, they constantly bitch, you're constantly worthless, and then they come with they crackhead talk, I don't have enough money to pay you in full this week but I'll catch you up. Utterly Fuck Off.Ā Ā
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u/Dashbastrd 16h ago edited 16h ago
Weāll skip peas I guess. Vote better next time so immigrants arenāt too afraid to come work your field. Good luck keeping your farm afloat. š
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u/Wizywig 16h ago edited 14h ago
These people are millionaires. Worst case is they sell everything, buy a condo in NYC, and retire tomorrow.
Edit: "Nobody wants to work anymore"
Convince an american to move out there:
- 1200 a month isn't bad
- you live in an isolated space, COMPLETELY dependent on your boss, to give you a decent QoL. Likely leave your family to do so. Or where you gonna educate your kids, etc.
- Not ICE-safe. If you're mexican, even a legal mexican, you're gonna get harrassed.
In any case, gonna go into the corner to shed some tears for these millionaires.
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u/AugustusSavoy 15h ago
Won't even sell everything. Might sell the equipment but they'll lease out the land and just make passive income.Ā Ā
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u/Sorryallthetime 15h ago
If he is unable to bring his peas to market then peas will be imported from Mexico. .
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 16h ago
To add some context:
H-2A temporary agricultural workers are foreign nationals hired by U.S. employers to perform temporary or seasonal farm jobs when there arenāt enough qualified U.S. workers available. Employers must file Form I-129 after getting a temporary labor certification, and they must provide required protections like wages and housing.
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u/Resident_Artist_6486 16h ago
people are too scared to even apply for the H-2A for fear of getting sent to Africa.
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u/MHGrim 16h ago
You get what you voted for. Everyone said he was an incompetent moron. Now you find out.
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u/aquatrez 15h ago
Equivalent of a $72k salary, even with free housing, for extremely hard labor is not going to appeal to most US-born residents. Maybe we shouldn't have an economy that rewards profit-makers over actually essential labor while simultaneously alienating the only workers willing to work for those jobs for those wages (i.e. immigrants).
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u/Tokon32 15h ago
The free housing is you living on the farm in a barracks.
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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 15h ago
Yeah, thatās not a lot of added value, these things are usually done in capital cities where a room costs 600+ a month to rent.
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u/OrangeCatFanForever 14h ago
72k working 6 days a week for 12 hours a day with no vacation or benefits. An American can go work in an air-conditioned grocery store for the same wage with a lot less damage to their body.
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u/chzie 15h ago
Despite how often we talk about "unskilled labor" all labor takes skill.
Picking peas for someone who has spent years picking peas will make way more money than someone who has no experience picking peas, so people without experience have 0 incentive to take up a job we have spent decades badmouthing and telling people you're a loser if you do it
1400 a week to work 12 hour days destroying your body in the middle of nowhere doesn't sound too appealing but exploiting farm workers is a tale as old as time
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u/themikecampbell 15h ago
This guy is also too smug to understand supply and demand. Someone found the Facebook post further up and his claims didnāt quite align.
Itās possible to make the 1400 he claimed, which is $72k a year, but only with ungodly hours and skill.
Buddy needs to learn something called the āsupply and demandā curve of wages
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u/LukeKornet 15h ago edited 15h ago
25 an hour (assuming 8 hour day to be extremely generous) plus sleeping in a shed, in exchange for picking peas in that lovely Georgia summer heat? Shocking
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u/Machaeon 13h ago
Less than that unless you are skilled at picking. He pays by the bushel, not by the hour.
A bushel of fresh unshelled peas is around 32lbs or 60lbs if dried and shelled.
To hit $1400/week, you'd need to pick 20 bushels per day 7 days a week. A minimum of 640lbs.
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u/PMProfessor 15h ago
He'll be voting Republican in the next election though because woke and trans, right?
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u/anteatersaredope 15h ago
I'll do it for $1400 a week but it's gotta be a 5 day week at 8 hours a day.
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u/Peabody1987 16h ago
While youāre bending over to lace up those boot straps you might as well spread your asshole so your corporate and MAGA overlords can have full access to throughly fuck you.Ā
Man some Americans are so stupid.Ā
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u/Wolfman01a 15h ago
Who did you vote for? Fuck your peas.
Capitalism, baby! You cant find workers at those wages, pay higher or let the peas rot.
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u/dirtycimments 15h ago
I wonder if there might be some details missing or something.
Naw, probably not.
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u/Kooky-Situation-1913 16h ago
We're going to have a dustbowl because of a bunch of effing racists.
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u/TheTimn 15h ago
I wonder why you can't get those migrant workers to come pick your fields. I'm sure it cause they're lazy, and not that there's a constant threat of violence looming over their heads with this administration.
They've arrested wildland fire fighters who were actively working in their field. Timber companies can't get their normal crews because guys would rather take a smaller check in countries that don't have such an obvious threat of harm to the, and that they know they'll actually get paid on.Ā
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u/cosmogli 15h ago
Can't you just pick it yourself? You, your family, friends, whoever you find?
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u/rosatter 15h ago
Nobody wants to work where they may potentially get ICE called on them and killed.
$35/hr as base pay and $10/bushel seems decent but also there's no healthcare.
Sucks to suck, bubba. You get what you vote for.
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u/klako8196 āļø Tax The Billionaires 15h ago
If you have no takers at your current offer, you need to up the offer. Clearly, you need the workers more than workers need you if they're willing to pass on your offer.
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u/Theharlotnextdoor 15h ago
Its ok. When you sell your farm to private equity you'll be set for life.Ā
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u/thenord321 15h ago
Looks like Patrick is going to be stuck eating peas until bankruptcy because of Trump and ICE.
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u/PhD_Pwnology 15h ago
how many hours a day? How days a week? PTO? Retirement? The most important details are missing because this dude wants indentured servants.
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u/metanoia29 15h ago
It's almost like you shouldn't go into business expecting slave labor to finish the last leg of the process, especially when you voted to have those laborers deported and have scared off any others?
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u/Ok_Sentence_5767 15h ago
Low key I kinda think these types of people were the ones to own slaves
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u/ChaoticReality4Now 15h ago
"Because nobody wants to work", how are you (and your pea friends) so detached from reality? We've been saying this was going to happen, they could see it happening, then it finally hits them and "nOBoDY wAntS tO WoRK!". Fucking morons... I hope they all lose their farms.
It's not like we can safely buy fresh produce from the store anyways...
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u/Bx3_27 15h ago
Funny how this guy's crop ain't worth shit if he ain't got nobody to pick it. Land ain't worth shit if you ain't got nobody to plant it either. He's literally asking people to sign up to be sharecroppers and dumbfounded why he doesn't get any takers. Someone needs to ask him why don't he get out there and pick it for $1,400 a week?


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u/hansn 16h ago
On his Facebook, he's advertising $12/bushel. So sure, it's theoretically possible to make $1400/week, but I'd bet it's closer to $850 for 6 12 hr days. Depends on the season and experience of the picker, certainly.Ā