r/WorkReform 16h ago

šŸ“° News Georgia farmer Patrick Shivers says he cannot find workers to pick the peas on his farm despite offering free housing with all utilities included plus $1400 a week: "Looks like some of ya'll about to go hungry"

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u/hansn 16h ago

On his Facebook, he's advertising $12/bushel. So sure, it's theoretically possible to make $1400/week, but I'd bet it's closer to $850 for 6 12 hr days. Depends on the season and experience of the picker, certainly.Ā 

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u/rainmosscedars 16h ago

Farmers have gotten used to ridiculously cheap workers with ridiculous hours. Only the most desperate people would ever work (be exploited) like that.

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u/R50cent 15h ago

And they just kicked the most desperate out of the country.

Boy... Thoughts and prayers for all those conservative farmers who thought voting for trump would make things better but are now finding out that their neighbors won't work for slave wages.

Weird... Who could have guessed...

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u/r_special_ 15h ago edited 14h ago

Once the corporations buy up all the family farms ICE will become blind to the illegals in the fields. That or they’ll fill up all of the prisons and concentration camps and then force those poor souls to work to death in those fields.

Either way, this is by design for the benefit of the wealthy so that they can purchase assets for pennies on the dollar from people who were pushed out of their way of life

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u/btkn 13h ago

You nailed it. Thirteenth Amendment here we come.

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u/Whybotherr 11h ago

It took a while for the 13th to be fully implemented, the last chattel slave was freed in the 60s. The 1960s, almost 100 years after the signing of the emancipation proclamation. And thats not without lack of trying. Operation Blooming Onion was a 2021 (read 5 fucking years ago) fbi case where Onion farmers held Latin American workers sometimes by gunpoint, and held their visas and passports so that the workers couldn't go elsewhere or go seek help.

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u/EthanielRain 10h ago

That's happening right now, to an unknown number of poor souls (most commonly at sea)

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u/alien_simulacrum šŸ¤ Join A Union 13h ago

Yessir

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u/Puzzleheaded_Row6482 13h ago

Flock CEO wants homelessness to be a crime, so you can see the other source of labour they are looking at.

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u/cityshepherd āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires 12h ago

The plan is to round up the homeless, immigrants, drug addicts, etc to act as slave labor via the for profit prison system. If we don’t show the fuck up for midterms and vote some actual adults into the picture, it won’t be long before other undesirables (like democrats (especially democratic socialists), labor organizers, etc) are rounded up as well.

Everyone that says that I’m being ridiculous/exaggerating needs to pull their head out of their ass and read some fucking history books. They are literally following the nazi playbook page by page. I feel like there are far too many people who aren’t taking this seriously, and are grossly underestimating how fucked things are about to get (and how quickly things are going to start moving).

There is a reason why they’re rushing to build so many concentration/labor camps, and setting the framework for being able to legally define people who don’t bend the knee for these fascist cowards as terrorists.

Wake the fuck up people. Make sure you are registered to vote, make sure every single god damned person you know is registered to vote, and do whatever the fuck it takes to get out and vote in midterms… these peace of shit traitors who genuinely despite America are not fucking around and they are going to pull all kinds of nefarious bullshit to fuck with the integrity of midterm elections. Let’s get it fucking done in the polls in November… otherwise, I guess I’ll see you assholes in the labor camps soon enough.

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u/r_special_ 12h ago

It’s not even history books. It’s shit that’s happened in the past year that should have everyone understanding what the plan is. It’s stupid obvious to anyone who has paid attention. The problem is that 1/3 of the people are cheering this on, 1/3 aren’t paying attention and the other 1/3 will be the ones prisoned and enslaved

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u/hedonheart 10h ago

Project 2025 was their playbook.

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u/Ill_Quantity_5634 8h ago

The sad thing is you don't even have to read any history books. Just read Project 2025 where they literally tell you what they're going to do and have been doing since Trump got into office. They're not even hiding their evil plans any more; they're blatantly flaunting them knowing there's nothing the poors can do about it.

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u/Karl_Chillers 14h ago

"Excellent," hissed Mongomery Burns.

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u/EvitaPuppy 15h ago

But wait, start trade wars and watch those farm exports go way down! Now, no need for cheap labor! (Taps head)

These poor idiots always vote against thier own self interest.

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u/OtnSweaty 14h ago

But many of those affected get bailout dollars ( not all crops but there are multiple programs) Direct payments of taxpaper dollars to offset trade loss due to policy decisions . https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2026/07/triple-dipping-taxpayer-dollars-trump-eyes-billions-more-subsidies

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u/igcipd 15h ago

But they get to own the libs….which is clearly the best part of this…..I mean, who cares if they can afford anything, they get to own the libs. They’re genuinely a cancer to society

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u/Minervas-Madness 15h ago

With this economy? They'll have to settle for renting the libs.

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u/Caspre47 15h ago

Damn that’s good; haven’t heard that before. I’m seizing this jokes means of production

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u/SiLeNZ_ 14h ago

Don’t forget to pay the tariffs on that!

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u/Caspre47 14h ago

Why bother? I’ll just get a refund anyway

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u/Karl_Chillers 14h ago

Rent-to-own; Flexi Compras.

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u/DelugeQc 15h ago

Yeah but them gays and trans are controlled now! /s

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u/Annihilator4413 15h ago

Why would they risk coming to work on farms which ICE frequently raids to pick up undocumented workers to drag them to concentration camps?

Even if they're legal the risk is too high that ICE won't care and will take them away anyways.

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u/CheckMateFluff 15h ago

It's worse than that too. Some people live here; tell them this same shit, and they just call you something derogatory, then walk right into the wall. It gets to the point that the people around them want to watch them fail because every time we ever tried to tell them diffrent, they blew it off. I grew up with the kids of rural farmers as my classmates, and even then they knew it, so it's not like they don't know. Or we weren't warned.

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u/therealkami 14h ago

The amount of times I hear rural people tell me "You're not from here, you don't understand" as they dig in their heels about how they're ruining their own lives because they're afraid of trans people.

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u/IgnatiusRileyFreeman 14h ago

It's okay, they'll just hire literal actual slaves from the local private prison

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u/SubstantialAgency914 14h ago

Best part is those who are experienced and still willing to do the work now have a lot more leverage and bargaining power. Time to raise those wages Mr. Farmer.

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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep 14h ago

They were counting on desperate times making their workforce more exploitable.

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u/getuchapped 14h ago

They don't deserve thoughts or prayers

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u/userhwon 14h ago

I dunno. If you listen to cattle ranchers, they all should be willing to pick peas for $12 a bushel right now. They're acting like a little competition from Argentina is the second coming of Hillary Clinton.

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u/SiLeNZ_ 14h ago

The irony is astounding. It’s like critical thinking is impossible for them.

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u/insanitybit2 15h ago

The response to this isn't that unreasonable... you're basically saying that immigration is good because you can give them slave wages.

There are a lot of good reasons to allow for immigration, the ability to exploit the desperation of immigrants is not one of them.

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u/b4ngl4d3sh 14h ago

That part always gets ignored. Basically, Americans are too lazy because we expect labor laws to be at least loosely adhered to.

I already work back breaking labor, I'd work another variety for similar protections and wages. It's not a matter of will.

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u/BaiMoGui 15h ago

ridiculously cheap worker

Let's speak plainly. Farmers have gotten used to illegal labor rates.

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u/mclepus 15h ago

and now they expect black Americans to become share croppers

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u/Revolver_Boxelot 12h ago

I speak on behalf of the black delegation when I say that ship has sailed bruh. We are very different from our great grandparents.

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u/throw_away_stress šŸ” Decent Housing For All 10h ago

That's why they're pushing so hard to utilize the 13th amendmentĀ 

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u/Vezuvian 15h ago

And then the uncomfortable truth, we got used to buying food, produced here, at these rates and we are wildly uncomfortable with the idea of those prices going up in order to pay the workers a living wage.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak šŸ‘· Good Union Jobs For All 15h ago

All those Republicans saying immigrants took their jobs should be busting down his door though

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u/Loggerdon šŸš‘ Cancel Medical Debt 15h ago edited 14h ago

Plus the US has been investing in Mexico since 2015 to make it ā€œour new Chinaā€. Income levels rise in Mexico and the cheap farm workers will be gone at some point in the future.

So these farmers, 95% of whom voted for Trump, will now have their hands out for government checks.

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u/CorpusF 14h ago

Just remember: It's not socialism when it helps ME!

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u/Astro_Addict 15h ago

It's not just the US either. I had a friend who used to work on farms and greenhouses here in Canada, and she made minimum wage for some seriously hard physical labour. Many of her co-workers were on work visas from South America and getting paid FAR less than her (like $20/day with housing). I'm sure most of them could afford to pay a living wage, but I wouldn't be surprised if many have to - or choose to - sell their farms

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u/supernovice007 15h ago edited 15h ago

This is absolutely what is happening. I used to do this type of work when I was a kid. I worked during the summers from age 11 to 15. (Yay rural child labor).

Its sunup to sundown and all of it is constant manual labor. It's brutal work that pays by "completed unit" which varies based on the job. In any given shift, most people were making around minimum wage or less. Some people made a bit more but I doubt anyone made much more than $9-$10/hour at a time when minimum wage was $4.25/hour.

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u/Sherbert-Particular 8h ago

I'm from Washington state and know what the apple picker's "housing" looks like and have to say, it's important that people understand what he means when he says, "the house, the ac, the cable tv etc etc" It's a goddamn 6'x6' single-ply plywood shed with a fucked ac unit (otherwise the occupants would die) and a 12 inch michael fucking scott flat screen tv. It is not housing by any standard anywhere. It is hotbox homelessness with a single lightbulb a tv and ac that keeps it just below 90 degrees at night.

It's a shit deal and as we both understand this guy is a shit human being. He should see if people will sign up if he stays in the shed while they stay in his house. It's his livelihood afterall.

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u/Brimstone117 10h ago

Any insight as to how many bushels per hour or per week a motivated picker can pick?

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u/Tokon32 15h ago

Don't forget he is also offering housing. AKA you live on the farm and have no excuse to be late or call out. Also since it's a massive farm their ain't shit for amenities anywhere near.

It's a great life one every america should grow up and aspire to live..............

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u/justprettymuchdone 15h ago

I've seen the kind of housing that's usually provided to people who agree to work on these farms. Calling them clapboard shacks is usually being flattering.

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u/fireburn97ffgf 15h ago

I mean it's Georgia I wouldn't be surprised if it was an old slave house

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u/Tokon32 14h ago

Waot this dudes in GA? I might need to go down and see about negotiating for a wage people would be willing to work for.

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u/WakingOwl1 15h ago

Yup, there was a work camp behind where I lived years ago. Twenty guys living in an old drafty barn with one bathroom. Old falling apart bunk beds, one shitty old stove and fridge, no telephone in the days before cell phones. It was horrific.

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u/Amanda316 14h ago

This is such an interesting note on it - he was making it seem like it was a dream spot, fully furnished place ready to move in. Yet he’s actually paying workers by the bushel. Not an actual salary per week.

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u/njuffstrunk 13h ago

It's supply and demand really. If he can't find employees it's because the conditions/pay he's offering is insufficient.

And yeah I highly doubt he couldn't find anyone willing to work one month for roughly $5k even if it's an incredibly demanding job, makes no sense..

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u/solthar 11h ago

I've wired fire alarm systems in a bunch of ones.

One is great towards their workers, individual rooms in an old house that was on the property and a couple of extra portables that have been retrofited. AC, internet, and provided one vehicle for them if they have a valid license.

One has four bunk beds per room with a shared living space. Still has AC and crappy internet. Livable, but not comfortable.

One I've made multiple complaints about to the authorities, but nothing has been done about it.

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u/rand0fand0 15h ago

Working to afford to exist sounds like like slavery with extra steps

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u/a_library_socialist 15h ago

no, see, you can CHOOSE to work for this guys' profits . . . or you can starve! So it's voluntary!

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u/S1ayer 15h ago

Are you allowed to live there when there's no peas to pick?

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u/boldandbratsche 15h ago

To be fair, this is seasonal migrant labor that only lasts a few weeks. While it would be great for enjoyable work life balance in a nice location, the purpose is usually to make as much money as possible to send home, then move on to the next seasonal opportunity or just go home until next year.

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u/cooking2recovery 15h ago

Yeah this type of economy doesn’t work as well after you deport the farm laborers.

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u/zyrkseas97 15h ago

BlackBirdCoop on TikTok breaks down how most farmers are actually millionaires with a powerful lobby and get tons of tax money and labor rights exemptions on top of their business. It’s hard for me to feel bad for these guys, they are running their own small business poorly and blaming everyone else.

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u/karebearjedi 15h ago

I love that guy.Ā  "What is it nooooow?"

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u/Resident_Artist_6486 16h ago edited 16h ago

Yea this is hard ass work for not much pay. One bushel is 60lbs. DRY. A wet bushel is 80lbs.

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u/cile1977 15h ago

Here in Croatia, the maximum legal lifting weight is 25 kg (55 lbs) for male workers and 15 kg (33 lbs) for female workers. The US doesn’t have laws like that?

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u/WARning296 15h ago

lol no. OSHA has no limits like that, just a clean work area without hazards to make you trip as you break your back for the man.

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u/cokecaine 15h ago

Hahahahhahahahahhaha. In the land of the free?

No, OSHA has no weight limits. Usually job will specify what weight you're expected to lift (usually "up to, but occasionally over").

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u/opesosorry 15h ago

Nah I’m a woman in America and have worked jobs that required me to lift 100lbs with regularity (this was disclosed in the job description)

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u/cile1977 15h ago

WTF!? Here in Croatia, the limit is 33 lbs for women aged 19 to 45, and 13 kg (28 lbs) for older women, and the daily limit for both male and female workers, over a seven-and-a-half-hour shift, is 1000 kg (2200 lbs).

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u/Appchoy 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yeah theres nothing like that in the US. Ive worked in bakeries most of my life and flour bags are 50lbs so I dont really have to do more than that at once usually. But I have had to occasionally lift several boxes of frozen dough at a time which will weigh 70lbs (35lbs each). There are some jobs that will require more, like construction or moving furniture either into peoples homes or in warehouses.

I have moved waaay more than 1000lbs in a shift many many times.Ā 

The most I ever did was unload 8 pallets in one shift by myself which by my estimate would be about average 2000lbs each.

Edit to add: women in most jobs in the US are on paper expected to do the same as men, but in practice most people know thats just not going to happen and men will see the women struggling and step in to help, and usually end up taking on more work because of it. Not all the time of course, but its basically just up to the workers to figure it out in the places Ive been. I worked with a woman who was 75 years old and lifting the same boxes and weights as the 18yr old guys and working harder than them too.

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u/opesosorry 14h ago

Yeah I worked in food manufacturing (frozen bakery), and I averaged about 10,000lbs/day. Those bags are no joke.

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u/SpecialistCut7101 13h ago

I’ve moved 1000kg in less than an hour and kept working many many times. Americans are brainwashed to think it’s great here, they have no idea what worker protections are.

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u/one_crooked_ear āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires 13h ago

I worked at a pet food store out of high school and was hauling 60lb bags of feed all day long. For context, I’m a 5’2 woman

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u/IrishPrime 15h ago

Dude, I've had office jobs in the US that said I needed to be able to lift 60 lbs.

Edit for context: IT related work which might involve racking/unracking servers and hauling around monitors before LCD/LED screens were the norm.

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u/Leonardo_ofVinci 15h ago

Has > Enforced.

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u/Rooster_CPA 15h ago

Lol fuck no we dont. And the only people who were doing these jobs in the past were illegal immigrants but with the current political climate they ain't here.

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u/iamgladtohearit 15h ago

No, I have actually worked a couple jobs where as part of my employment contact I agree that I am able to regularly lift 50 lbs as needed (I'm a woman and these were non physical labor jobs). I've never heard about places with weight lifting restrictions except for women while pregnant

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u/V2BM 14h ago

They use that 50 pound requirement for people like receptionists to weed out disabled people.

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u/Daddy_Senpaii 15h ago

Depends on the state but for southern states the answer is most likely no.

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u/dasnoob 15h ago

That is part of why they hire illegal workers. If the worker goes to OSHA they get deported and probably separated from their family.

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u/TomeThugNHarmony4664 šŸ›ļø Overturn Citizens United 15h ago

Exactly he claims $1400 a week but that does not include the hours, the days, and the conditions each week.

Pea picking is back-breaking labor. People do not owe him their health.

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u/BoulderCreature 15h ago

Free housing also probably means hot bunking in a shed where 5 other people are sleeping at the same time

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u/hansn 15h ago

Probably not hot bunking (multiple people per rack), but dorm style bunk beds are likely.Ā 

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u/Retired_Jarhead55 15h ago

So about 20 bushels a day, six days a week = $1400.00

Ever seen a bushel?

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u/JMJimmy 14h ago

About 1,800 peas per bushel

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u/SplodeyDope 15h ago

When conservatives come face to face with "basic economics"...

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u/SomberArtist2000 14h ago

None of it really matters, though, when you go to show up for work and ICE kidnaps and renditions you to another country.

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u/_Repeats_ 16h ago

This guy should pick himself up by his bootstraps and get picking!

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u/Resident_Artist_6486 16h ago edited 15h ago

He's got time to walk through his field and make a video complaining but not enough sense to bend over and pick a pea or at least make a good recruiting video.

Edit: this dude has a youtube channel filled with farming rant videos. Fuck him.

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u/hansn 16h ago

Time to smirk, there's time to work, I say.

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u/EmilioFreshtevez 15h ago

If you got time to kick rants, you got time to pick plants

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u/popgoeskia 15h ago

if you got time to bitch, you have time to pitch.

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u/strictlyphotonic 14h ago

Got time to leg it to other farms, got time to legume your own.

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u/imposter_sauce 14h ago

If you got time to be persnickity you got time to pick da lil peas

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u/Omirin 15h ago

Got time to lean got time to clean, Peas, that is

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u/HenryBemisJr 15h ago

I can't help but think he grabs dirt and wipes it all over himself to make it look like he has worked hard. He is way too white and non-sunburnt to have picked any bushels himself, maybe he doesn't leave his covered, AC cooled machinary all day. I say this as a person with the same complexion and 30 minutes outside in that sunlight, he and I both would be as red as a lobster.Ā 

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u/xela364 15h ago

Hey! Gotta pay attention to the details, he also had time to also put some dirt on his hand he’s showing the camera to LARP as someone doing work! He’s committed to the bit, you think just anyone can LARP as a farmer??

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u/regoapps āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires 16h ago

He doesn’t want to. So it looks like he’s about to go hungry, too.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 15h ago

This pea picken idiot wouldn’t know how

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u/jdunk2145 16h ago

That's an awful lot of talkin and not a lot of pea pickin.

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u/Particular-Put4786 14h ago

I have a good idea of who he voted for so I'm not sure why he's complaining when he knew this would happen

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u/ImAPixiePrincess 12h ago

I don't know how he thinks he's going to find H2A workers when we're deporting everybody and anybody, even US citizens.

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u/meldiane81 šŸ’ø Raise The Minimum Wage 11h ago

You have a good idea because he said ā€œpeople don’t wanna workā€ instead of ā€œpeople don’t wanna be deportedā€

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u/flora_poste_ 13h ago

That's right. This man, his wife, his children, his brothers and sisters, his parents, his cousins, his aunts and uncles, and every single other person in his extended family should be bent over those plants picking peas all the livelong day, every day. But you can see the rows are deserted.

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u/Kefflin 13h ago

With that whole list, you are like talking about 4 different person total

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u/freshkangaroo28 11h ago

It’s almost like he and his family don’t want to work!

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u/OkSmoke9195 13h ago

Oh man this made me laugh enough to start coughing again you sob

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u/fileunderaction 12h ago

You don’t understand. He can’t pick peas himself because he has to drive to a dozen other farms so they can circlejerk about how they can’t find workers.

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u/voodoohotdog 16h ago

He forgot to mention the added perk of the possibility of a free trip to who knows where after the ICE raids...

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u/dmcent54 15h ago

That's exactly what I was thinking. This dude looks like the kind of trash who would work migrants for a couple months, then call ICE and brag about it at church. I wonder how his tears taste.

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u/ferns0 14h ago

Right before pay day

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u/tay930 8h ago

My dad was a farmer and he said when a new person would start working for him, sometimes they would be shocked he actually paid them on pay day. So many of his employees were use to working for farmers that would promise to pay them, then come pay day refuse and threaten to call immigration on them if they complained. My dad would tell them as long as they worked for him, they would get paid the amount they agreed on and on the day they agreed on no matter what. That was probably 15-20 years ago now and it’s only gotten worse. Can you imagine doing back breaking labor in 100 degree temperatures and not even getting paid the very small amount the farmer promised?

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u/Ok_Instance7667 8h ago

Happened in the currency crisis/economic collapse in Russia in the 90's. There was lots of work - but nobody was getting paid. So if they weren't paid, they stopped working.

One of the few companies in the Tomsk, Siberia region that paid was a Canadian logging company. I learned this when I travelled there in 2010 when I stayed with some couch surfers who basically said they owed their lives to their Father who was able to find work with a company who paid. They main reason they wanted to meet me, was because I was Canadian.

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u/IShouldaDownVotedYa 14h ago

The leopard in me wonders how his face tastes.

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u/oregiel 15h ago

My brown looking white American ass would never work somewhere that would get me shot and killed or put into a concentration camp by ICE to support a farmer who provided that dictatorship bullshit condition in the first place.

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u/r_special_ 15h ago

Even if you looked white when you started you’d be no questions asked based on color only arrestible within a few weeks

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u/Mehdals_ 16h ago

Whys he walking that row without picking as he goes?

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u/Solynox 15h ago

Entitled white man doesn’t work his own fields. That's for the "undesirables", as he'd put it.

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u/jacobtfromtwilight 15h ago

farmers just don't want to work anymore

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u/iwastryingtokillgod 11h ago

Him and all his farmer neighbirs should get to work.

Team up and pick each other's farms together.

Or buy a machine to do itĀ 

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u/winklesnad31 16h ago

That guy should put down his camera, stop bitching, and start picking beans.

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u/CrazyRegion 15h ago

It’s peas actually, but yeah. Less talking, more picking!

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u/UseWhatever šŸ›ļø Overturn Citizens United 16h ago

It’s funny that farmers think trump wants anything to do with them. They might be millionaires, but they’re just blue collar to trump.

All these farms will get bought up by corporations (run by real trump guys in suits) and they’ll hire these farmers to manage them at a fraction of their current income.

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u/chzie 15h ago

Small correction, they'll use prison labor from their "partner corporations"

Why pay more than you have too right?

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u/UseWhatever šŸ›ļø Overturn Citizens United 15h ago

That’s some top-shelf capitalist thinking right there!

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u/Weird-Information-61 šŸ¤ Join A Union 16h ago

They make a harvester for peas, he has no excuse

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u/muffpatty 16h ago

I learned this from Farming Simulator.

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u/Weird-Information-61 šŸ¤ Join A Union 16h ago

Oh I didn't know they added peas

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u/MHGrim 15h ago

Where were you when you found out farming simulator had peas dlc? I was in a Reddit post about a whiny farmer

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u/AirOk9398 15h ago

Me too, i was in Reddit too about a whiny farmer

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u/Lemp_Triscuit11 15h ago

He means Junimos and you mean Stardew

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u/1nGirum1musNocte 15h ago

Cuts into his profit margins

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u/porkchop2022 15h ago

As with most investments, pays for itself in a couple of seasons.

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u/dasnoob 15h ago

Yeah but keeps him from buying himself and his wife brand new fully loaded trucks one year.

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u/etzarahh 12h ago

What, you expect him to farm peas without his Ford F-450 Superduty Deluxe with coal-rolling functionality?

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u/TheKingOcelot 15h ago

Ah but you fail to realize that thinking multiple years in advance is REALLY hard for someone who's job revolves around thinking about what season it is.

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u/Tokon32 15h ago

If he were to get that. It would require work from him and paying someone a real salary to operate it.

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u/fezzuk 15h ago

No it would destroy his crop and it would go towards animal feed or pea flour.

You grow a different type of pea for this.

For actual whole peas you need to hand pick.

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u/hurler_jones 15h ago

My understanding is this video is several years old and he has since moved to mechanical harvesters like the one you linked.

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u/ParadeSit 16h ago

Maybe write Trump a letter (or maybe in care of Natalie). I’m sure he and Stephen Miller will get right on it.

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u/Hopeful_Hornet4460 15h ago

The price is just a load of bull seven ways to Sunday. I've spent thenlast two decades of my life working for people who claim to pay well and whine about not having labor and lazy people when... Suprise surprise... They don't actually pay what they say.

Always hemming and hawing about some excuse as to why they can't give you the money as advertised. Even if you picked enough, this kinda asshole would find some way to cheese you out of the money, guaranteed. Make up some excuse about hownthey have tk spread the money across the next four paychecks then fire you before the end of the week.

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u/AgreeAndSubmit 11h ago

And this is exactly why I'll never work for Small Business ever again. No benefits, no 401k, they constantly bitch, you're constantly worthless, and then they come with they crackhead talk, I don't have enough money to pay you in full this week but I'll catch you up. Utterly Fuck Off.Ā Ā 

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u/Dashbastrd 16h ago edited 16h ago

We’ll skip peas I guess. Vote better next time so immigrants aren’t too afraid to come work your field. Good luck keeping your farm afloat. šŸ‘

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u/Wizywig 16h ago edited 14h ago

These people are millionaires. Worst case is they sell everything, buy a condo in NYC, and retire tomorrow.

Edit: "Nobody wants to work anymore"

Convince an american to move out there:

- 1200 a month isn't bad

- you live in an isolated space, COMPLETELY dependent on your boss, to give you a decent QoL. Likely leave your family to do so. Or where you gonna educate your kids, etc.

- Not ICE-safe. If you're mexican, even a legal mexican, you're gonna get harrassed.

In any case, gonna go into the corner to shed some tears for these millionaires.

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u/BTTammer 16h ago

They're not moving to NYC.Ā  These fuckers go straight to Texas or Florida

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u/AugustusSavoy 15h ago

Won't even sell everything. Might sell the equipment but they'll lease out the land and just make passive income.Ā Ā 

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u/Shoddy-Truth90 16h ago

This is exactly the point, nothing more nothing less

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u/Sorryallthetime 15h ago

If he is unable to bring his peas to market then peas will be imported from Mexico. .

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u/Hawkwise83 15h ago

Cool thing about workers is, if you offer more money you get more workers.

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u/Late-Arrival-8669 16h ago

To add some context:

H-2A temporary agricultural workers are foreign nationals hired by U.S. employers to perform temporary or seasonal farm jobs when there aren’t enough qualified U.S. workers available. Employers must file Form I-129 after getting a temporary labor certification, and they must provide required protections like wages and housing.

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u/Resident_Artist_6486 16h ago

people are too scared to even apply for the H-2A for fear of getting sent to Africa.

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u/MHGrim 16h ago

You get what you voted for. Everyone said he was an incompetent moron. Now you find out.

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u/aquatrez 15h ago

Equivalent of a $72k salary, even with free housing, for extremely hard labor is not going to appeal to most US-born residents. Maybe we shouldn't have an economy that rewards profit-makers over actually essential labor while simultaneously alienating the only workers willing to work for those jobs for those wages (i.e. immigrants).

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u/Tokon32 15h ago

The free housing is you living on the farm in a barracks.

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u/EmilioFreshtevez 15h ago

For like a month, according to some other comments

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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 15h ago

Yeah, that’s not a lot of added value, these things are usually done in capital cities where a room costs 600+ a month to rent.

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u/Rocking_Horse_Fly 15h ago

The "free housing" is a threat of homelessness .

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u/OrangeCatFanForever 14h ago

72k working 6 days a week for 12 hours a day with no vacation or benefits. An American can go work in an air-conditioned grocery store for the same wage with a lot less damage to their body.

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u/RuckFeddi7 14h ago

$12/bushel. $1,400 per week has a big asterisk sign on it

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u/chzie 15h ago

Despite how often we talk about "unskilled labor" all labor takes skill.

Picking peas for someone who has spent years picking peas will make way more money than someone who has no experience picking peas, so people without experience have 0 incentive to take up a job we have spent decades badmouthing and telling people you're a loser if you do it

1400 a week to work 12 hour days destroying your body in the middle of nowhere doesn't sound too appealing but exploiting farm workers is a tale as old as time

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u/themikecampbell 15h ago

This guy is also too smug to understand supply and demand. Someone found the Facebook post further up and his claims didn’t quite align.

It’s possible to make the 1400 he claimed, which is $72k a year, but only with ungodly hours and skill.

Buddy needs to learn something called the ā€œsupply and demandā€ curve of wages

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u/LukeKornet 15h ago edited 15h ago

25 an hour (assuming 8 hour day to be extremely generous) plus sleeping in a shed, in exchange for picking peas in that lovely Georgia summer heat? Shocking

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u/Machaeon 13h ago

Less than that unless you are skilled at picking. He pays by the bushel, not by the hour.

A bushel of fresh unshelled peas is around 32lbs or 60lbs if dried and shelled.

To hit $1400/week, you'd need to pick 20 bushels per day 7 days a week. A minimum of 640lbs.

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u/PMProfessor 15h ago

He'll be voting Republican in the next election though because woke and trans, right?

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u/FabricationLife 15h ago

*wealthy landowner finds out the value of labor

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u/anteatersaredope 15h ago

I'll do it for $1400 a week but it's gotta be a 5 day week at 8 hours a day.

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u/Peabody1987 16h ago

While you’re bending over to lace up those boot straps you might as well spread your asshole so your corporate and MAGA overlords can have full access to throughly fuck you.Ā 

Man some Americans are so stupid.Ā 

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u/Wolfman01a 15h ago

Who did you vote for? Fuck your peas.

Capitalism, baby! You cant find workers at those wages, pay higher or let the peas rot.

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u/dirtycimments 15h ago

I wonder if there might be some details missing or something.

Naw, probably not.

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u/Kooky-Situation-1913 16h ago

We're going to have a dustbowl because of a bunch of effing racists.

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u/TheTimn 15h ago

I wonder why you can't get those migrant workers to come pick your fields. I'm sure it cause they're lazy, and not that there's a constant threat of violence looming over their heads with this administration.

They've arrested wildland fire fighters who were actively working in their field. Timber companies can't get their normal crews because guys would rather take a smaller check in countries that don't have such an obvious threat of harm to the, and that they know they'll actually get paid on.Ā 

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u/Flying_Catfish 16h ago

Maybe he should increase wages a bit

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u/SomeSamples 16h ago

Bootstraps and all that.

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u/cosmogli 15h ago

Can't you just pick it yourself? You, your family, friends, whoever you find?

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u/EquinsuOcha 15h ago

Won’t someone think of the poor sharecroppers?!

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u/rosatter 15h ago

Nobody wants to work where they may potentially get ICE called on them and killed.

$35/hr as base pay and $10/bushel seems decent but also there's no healthcare.

Sucks to suck, bubba. You get what you vote for.

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u/Bundlecorn 15h ago

Some of y'all's about to lose yer family farm.

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u/klako8196 āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires 15h ago

If you have no takers at your current offer, you need to up the offer. Clearly, you need the workers more than workers need you if they're willing to pass on your offer.

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u/Theharlotnextdoor 15h ago

Its ok. When you sell your farm to private equity you'll be set for life.Ā 

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u/sabedo 15h ago

a business that can't pay it's workers a decent wage and relies on exploitation to thrive has no right to survive

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u/thenord321 15h ago

Looks like Patrick is going to be stuck eating peas until bankruptcy because of Trump and ICE.

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u/Status-Basic āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires 15h ago

I can live without peas, Patrick.

Can you?

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u/DroppedThatBall 15h ago

And you KNOW who he voted for. Leopards been eating good.

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u/PhD_Pwnology 15h ago

how many hours a day? How days a week? PTO? Retirement? The most important details are missing because this dude wants indentured servants.

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u/metanoia29 15h ago

It's almost like you shouldn't go into business expecting slave labor to finish the last leg of the process, especially when you voted to have those laborers deported and have scared off any others?

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u/cmgr33n3 15h ago

Nobody wants to pick my peas says man not picking his peas.

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u/Ok_Sentence_5767 15h ago

Low key I kinda think these types of people were the ones to own slaves

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u/ChaoticReality4Now 15h ago

"Because nobody wants to work", how are you (and your pea friends) so detached from reality? We've been saying this was going to happen, they could see it happening, then it finally hits them and "nOBoDY wAntS tO WoRK!". Fucking morons... I hope they all lose their farms.
It's not like we can safely buy fresh produce from the store anyways...

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u/Bx3_27 15h ago

Funny how this guy's crop ain't worth shit if he ain't got nobody to pick it. Land ain't worth shit if you ain't got nobody to plant it either. He's literally asking people to sign up to be sharecroppers and dumbfounded why he doesn't get any takers. Someone needs to ask him why don't he get out there and pick it for $1,400 a week?