r/WhatIsTheTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 1d ago
Political Tea Mamdani won't stop achieving!
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u/Fat_Alphonse 1d ago
But how are they going to put up portraits of Trump as a jedi in a karate gi across every hallway?
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u/grizzwall111 1d ago
Thats not AI of course. Mr Trump is the only elite level BJJ instructor eith an orange belt, mainly used to tie up people who say no.
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u/Salt-Cold-2550 1d ago
wait does he even have the power to do so?
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u/Exact-Promotion501 1d ago
Yes just schools WiFi will block it and yes there are work around but it’ll be over 95% effective
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u/Neither_Salamander48 8h ago
Oh, so they will use A.I. at home. They can't use A.I. inside the school.
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u/Cheap-Advertising785 1d ago
Great question: idk personally BUT I do know this would have to be enforced on students, which in of itself is going to be hard to do.
Using chatgbt is already cheating on stuff so I asume it means chatgbt being used as like a calculator? Or that the teachers use it?.
Idk but either way I'll have to read the bill or whatever to truly understand what it actually prevented.
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u/Impressive_Recon 1d ago
The ban of AI use in schools isn’t really the difficult part. It’s going to be ensuring it’s not being used outside of school hours at home to complete school work and projects.
I know kids have school provided laptops now they can bring home, but nothing stopping them from using their phone or second separate laptop.
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u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy 1d ago
They’re not trying to ban it outside of school. What kind of dystopian world do you think we live in?
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u/Rizenstrom 1d ago
I assume this is more about the use of AI in creating lesson plans, which has definitely been a problem in some places. No way you can prevent students from using it. Not completely.
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u/MegatronusThePrime 1d ago
Are you using chat GPT in a different way by replacing the p with a b? Like intentionally or just some dyslexia goin on?
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u/ValiantTheVictorious 1d ago
Ai has no place in a setting for developing minds.
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u/StoryLineOne 1d ago
If used, specifically by a teacher ONLY, to explore stuff like "what if" historical scenarios on off days for students, and generally used as a tool to get students interested in teaching themselves (through their own research at the school library etc.) the subject, then I would be all for that.
But if its to replace critical thinking learning, then yeah, no, I completely agree with you.
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u/ValiantTheVictorious 1d ago
"In the current digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second; preserved in all it's tritness, never fading, always accessible; rumors of petty issues, misinterpretations, slander. All junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate, it will only slow down social progress.
The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtaposition of morality around us. Billions spent on new weapons to humanely murder other humans. Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their own victims. Although there are people in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species; everyone grows up being told what to do. "Be nice to other people but beat out the competition. You're special, believe in yourself and you will succeed".
But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed. You exercise your right to freedom and this is the result. All the rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdrawals into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum; they stay inside their little ponds leaking what ever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.
The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh, no one is invalidated but no one is right. Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "Truth". And this is the way the world ends. Not with a BANG, but with a whimper."
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u/odellrules1985 1d ago
I mean the same can be said for computers or a lot of modern technology.
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u/endual 1d ago
New technology bad. Just like when Socrates talked about how writing was going to kill wisdom:
"You have not discovered a potion for remembering, but for reminding; you provide your students with the appearance of wisdom, not with its reality."
Ironically, if no one wrote it down, we wouldn't know he said it...
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u/fiftiethcow 16h ago
Pretty sure my grandpa said the same thing about the internet and calculators.
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u/OkAssociation3487 1d ago
I hereby ban AI in all schools, it will have precisely the same effect
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u/Ok_Impression3324 1d ago
If the future is AI. Why is banning it from schools a good thing? I understand regulations on its use but a ban seems reckless.
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u/DetailOnly581 1d ago
For the same reason why geometry is taught AFTER algebra and chemistry is taught AFTER bio. They simply lack the foundation to utilize it correctly.
Ai is a new and growing technology that mind you can still get things wrong. It's important that a young vulnerable developing mind isn't blindly following it.
Children should be learning how to use their reasoning skills, analyze text, think critically about how abc effects xyz.
I want my kids to look at a situation and say "this happened because of that". Not "this happened because ai said so"
Overall. This is a great ban for the education system and I hope that more states do the same.
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u/Ok_Impression3324 1d ago
Yes AI can be taught to be used in the same manner as algebra nd bio. Yes. Toddlers shouldn't be on tech, But a 16yo should be taking AI classes on use and bias of AI. Just like we had computer classes in the 2000s. The use of AI as an assistance over a crutch is teachable.
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u/artificialgraymatter 1d ago
Need to ban the teachers from using by going after teacher resources that implement it. It’s saturated and full of errors.
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u/rizzatouiIIe 1d ago
Because youre not learning if your letting something else do it for you. Most kids forgot how to do long division because of the calculator. Granted, once they get older they can us AI.
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u/Lopsided_Pop1224 20h ago
lol people who know the least have the most to say. The kids will learn more from the best explanation possible provided by AI. Banning AI IS DUMB
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 1d ago
I think it will take time to come up with regulations for student use; there are already regulations for teacher and admin use.
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u/PotentialDoor1608 1d ago
The purpose of schools is to teach a variety of humans a variety of skills
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u/Smithy_Furt 1d ago
Yeah this is bullshit. My sister teaches middle school English and she can spot ai generated papers immediately. Not difficult. Ai is such a great tool to learn about a topic and brainstorm essay ideas. If I had it in school I would’ve crushed my classes without abusing it at all. They’re all gonna rely on it in college and their careers anyway so what are we even preparing them for by banning it? Makes no sense.
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u/redditsellout-420 17h ago
Because the future of AI is death to humanity.
When you have AI goonbots convincing people to end themselves you can't say its harmless.
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u/RepublicOk2402 1d ago
I'm sure it's an unpopular take, but I think teens especially need to learn how to work with AI. It’s incredibly useful and will make workers more efficient if used well.
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u/Flea_Soup 1d ago
No, you're presupposing lots of things with this take and those presuppositions are faulty to begin with. AI doesn't make work more efficient, it introduces a pathway block from point A to point B that is vital for teens to learn. Just no.
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u/Lovellholiday 21h ago
This is critically incorrect. AI is no different than a power tool or a Coding IDE. There are plenty of teens who are learning carpentry and Visual Basic in middle school, using AI should be no different.
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u/PowerfulPop6292 1d ago
I'm glad to see there are some people using some critical thinking here and not just jumping on this bandwagon. Imagine if they had banned personal computers in school in the 1990s
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u/InterestingPrior7064 1d ago
The difference is computers in school have mostly been used to as a collection of already existing information or learning software that is in itself a skill such as Programming Lanuages and CAD Software. AI is literally just a shortcut. You can lie to yourself and say that the kids will "learn to use it as a tool" but in reality they are gonna just ask chatgpt to write their essays for them or take pictures of their math homework and have their AI just give them the right answers. There is no benifit to allowing AI in schools.
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u/Whateversbetter 1d ago
Ai is a currently developing user interface system. Its goal is to understand the users requests in the natural language they use. By the time they grow up the ai will be natural language compliant and anyone who has trained themselves to use it will be if anything worse at using it.
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u/snifty 1d ago
Disagree with him on this one. It’s a head-in-the-sand approach. You can’t avoid AI now. Might as well just ban the internet.
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u/Panicking_Pansexual_ 1d ago
"We should just let the kids use ai to do all their work instead of actually learning"
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u/snifty 1d ago
They need to learn to use AI to learn better. It’s not kids' responsibility, it’s adults’.
I am pretty sure I’m going to be downvoted into oblivion…
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u/ayyypappi 21h ago
Yeah they'll be at a huge advantage because all of their peers outside of NYC and the world won't be using AI to learn faster, nor will they be limited to shitty teachers who don't give a flying fuck about their students, and it definitely won't affect children from lower income communities who attend schools that lack resources.
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u/Plibbo64 1d ago
They can use it all day when they go home or on their phones outside of school can't they?
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u/ElderberryPerfect263 1d ago
This will play great with his more ignorant demographics
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u/Beneficial-Shape-995 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not too different from the thought process of conservatives trying to ban vaccines because they don’t understand it and it scares them
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u/Katamari_Demacia 1d ago
For those of you not willing to read more than a headline...
Ban is pk to 8, all student facing AI tools, including digital tutors.
Yes in NYC he can do and enforce this. Under New York State law, the Mayor of NYC directly appoints the Schools Chancellor and a majority of the members on the Panel for Educational Policy. Giving the mayor supreme executive authority over the operations, curriculum, and technology choices.
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u/Responsible-Flow1101 1d ago
AI - single handedly democratizes intelligence
Democrats- this is awful
Lmao
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u/Iamnotarabicfunfact 1d ago
I’m not sure why you’re mad about this lol? He just banned the use of AI in schools until 9th grade, it’s like how you’re not meant to use calculators until high school because you’re still developing
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u/Ecstatic-Network-917 1h ago
Your comment is incoherent. That does NOT happen.
Generative AI is proven to make people less intelligent.
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u/ExtentNo3020 1d ago
I 100% completely agree with this. People are becoming lazy because they are relying on AI to do the simplest tasks. We can’t have young kids become lazy at such an early age. AI is destroying society, it’s being used for the wrong things.
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u/kyle2143 1d ago
I hope it prevents teachers and admins from using it too.
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 1d ago
It doesn't, but there are a lot of rules for how teachers and admin can and can't use it.
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u/Dinky_Nuts 1d ago
He’s really proving you can actually do things when you’re in a position of power
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u/SyllabubMental7292 1d ago
Really wish He could run for president. He's been on a generational run trying to improve NY
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u/Flaky_History12 1d ago edited 1d ago
There’s no party he could run for until older/ corporate democrat party leaders die out. Plus, it’ll be difficult to convince a good portion of Americans to vote for a muslim as President. NYC mayor? Sure. Senate or house for New York? Also Sure.
Getting votes across the nation to become President? That’s going to be rough even if his policies do well. People would prefer a different face with his policies. At least that’s what I think about the USA currently and for at least another two decades.4
u/EFAPGUEST 1d ago
He wasn’t born here so he cannot run for president. He’s also too far to the left for the American populace. He could be a WASP poster boy and still not get the votes to win the nomination
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u/Wonderful-Fold-2585 1d ago
What has he actually done though?
He balanced the budget by getting more money from the state and not contributing to pensions and then just claiming efficiency gains which may or may not happen.
He’s done childcare but it’s only 3000 kids of roughly 400k kids. So like 1% of kids.
He froze rent for some people but de blasio did that in 2016.
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
Every single time I see him getting credit for something it’s something that was done by someone else.
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u/Upbeat-Swing6650 1d ago
The rent freeze will result in many empty apartments. The idea sounds great though ngl
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 1d ago
Zo has made 1200 hours of content for social media. He can’t come be worrying about plans for NYC.
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u/Mike_Milburys_Shoe_ 1d ago
Yeah filling potholes in NYC really makes you a good presidential candidate. My god you people are brainwashed so easily
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u/SirStrokesAlot247 1d ago
Still, many students do not study at all. Only a very small percentage do
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u/Plenty_Building_72 1d ago
I bet the teachers have been demanding an AI ban on schools for ages. Actually weird it took this long for it to be banned. Consequently, NYC kids are going to end up a whole lot smarter than kids in other US states.
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u/Present_Student4891 1d ago
AI is a tool. Banning tools is non-sensical as we are and will use AI in our jobs. Schools horribly prepare students for their future anyhow. Why compound this problem? Whether we like it or not, AI is part of iur present & future. Banning it won’t change that.
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 1d ago
It is a tool, but I support this moratorium until such time as an effective strategy for teaching it and using are defined. Unfettered use of it has been a negative.
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u/SeriousCondition6470 1d ago
Why does anyone think this is bad? Kids developing learning skills should absolutely not use AI
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u/Maximum-Face9536 1d ago
this is feeble, virtue signaling. you can't successfully block ai, maybe on school computers. when has blocking a digital service ever been effective? think porn hub in certain states.
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u/mallcopsarebastards 1d ago
schools have not figured out how to leverage AI effectively yet. It's the same thing that happened with calculators and computers, they start out as a huge problem and eventually become accelerators. Eventually we'll have proven systems that leverage AI to improve a schools capacity to teach and NYC will have an uphill battle to undo this and get back in line with the rest of the country.
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u/random8765309 1d ago
What a joke. He banned using AI to cheat in grades K-8. In the processed also banned students from using AI to help with tutoring.
And for the huge win, a win bigger than the world has ever seen, he banned the schools from using AI to create graphics. Now teacher and staff can spend hours creating those posters instead of minutes.
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u/x1n1t1r1 1d ago
As every school should. At this point, all schoolwork should be completed at school, phones locked off. Homework is a lost cause.
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u/Fus_Roh_Dayumm 1d ago
During high school I got a big thrill trying to find ways to cheat on tests. I wasn't a very good student (or maybe I wasn't a very good cheater)
Part of me would love to be a teenager right now just for the sheer amount of technology avilable to cheese school.
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u/WhyHelloThere163 1d ago
Pretty funny how literally every post that has talked about banning/limiting AI has been hated on because it’s “dumb to not use it” yet when this guy does it, it’s a “win” and an “achievement”.
Really goes to show how intelligent Reddit is. “If someone we don’t like says it, it’s dumb. If someone we like says it, it’s smart.”
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u/PassionateYak 1d ago
I predict once AI is concretely embedded into education systems it will start charging real prices for it's use
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u/SameDistrict2627 1d ago
He's going to need to do more then that to fix what is a giant failure--The New York City Department of Education. Results only approached by Mississippi.
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u/blizzardice 8h ago
Louisiana did great this year too. I sit on the board for my school and the only time kids can use technology is when they are doing side work for their second language (main language of the school). They can read above their grade level and write both languages in cursive.
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u/Diamondangel82 1d ago
I don't agree with this. AI is the future if you people like it or not. Im not saying AI should do everything but we absolutely should be teaching our future generations to harness AI in their daily lives
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u/Maleconito 1d ago
My wife is a 2nd grade teacher just outside of NYC, her school is encouraging using AI and they even all have Gemini accounts. She created a cool interactive website for her class that helps with vowels and numbers. The kids love it and her class had the highest reading score in the school last year. So, idk.
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u/Spirited_Season2332 1d ago
How exactly is he going to prevent kids from using AI? pretty much every school already has rules against using AI
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe 1d ago
He banned the thing banned to students that students use anyway? I guess that’s something.
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u/UltraBurd 1d ago
Hey Gemini what is the historical success rate of socialism once implemented in countries /s
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u/My4dogs4evr 1d ago
WHAT A DIRTBAG ☝️
Not because of the AI thing…just in general. Proudly accepting your downvotes 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/time2blunt 1d ago
I cant fathom being stupid enough to think this Socialist Muslim is "achieving" anything as mayor of NY. Absolute state of the world if the US becomes socialist fml
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u/Robot_DIY 1d ago
Realistically, how will this change anything in the school? Most cases of AI with students is for cheating. It's not like they were using it with the school's blessing. School chatbots will be taken down, but will they actually hire more people to respond to online queries?
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u/Aliakabanda 1d ago
How does ban even work. The guy is complete jackass headline grabbing molestor
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u/Emergency-Stay7414 1d ago
There is actually 0 chance this can be enforced. AI can’t even detect if something is written by AI accurately.
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u/Super-Chemist7296 1d ago
So he made a city decree of a thing that’s already been a thing at the school level??
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u/Fast-Policy-4495 1d ago
It’s a one year ban for grades 2k to 8 grades. AI is new bans are not. Stop treating the mayor like he’s some God of mayors. He’s not!!
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u/Extension-While7536 1d ago
"Mamdani Shameless Anti-AI Ploy...And Did We Mention He's Muslim?" - rough draft of tomorrow's NY Post front page.
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u/sunnyvas 1d ago
I don’t think he needs to over-react and blanket ban. Teachers can really make a good use of the technology.
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u/tintwistedgrills90 1d ago
This is kind of dumb if it’s a blanket ban. While I certainly have my concerns about AI, at the end of the day it’s just computer processing. In the real world you need to know how to use Ai to do your job, or AI will take your job.
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u/Own_Badger6076 1d ago
How is banning AI use in public schools an achievement? It's just a mandate lol. Besides, the schools themselves could do this.
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u/InterestingPrior7064 1d ago
You clearly dont know any teachers rn. AI is making school literally impossible. Students using it for homework, writing papers, teachers using it to make lesson plans that dont make sense. Even some of the major textbook companies have started using AI. Educational outcomes are PLUMETING all over the country and we arent doing shit about it in most cases.
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u/Few_Distribution5239 1d ago
Yeah he gave you the first government run grocery store what an incredible achievement, more like what an incredible idiot
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u/Ok_Field_8860 23h ago
So - I think AI can be a tool to support education. I think regulation is necessary. Banning completely feels over kill
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u/Stickfail 22h ago
Wasn't AI already banned for students?
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u/Dankkring 20h ago
Ya but now teachers can’t have it make lesson plans or grade papers
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u/Diolan 22h ago
Not banned completely but banned for Students 2-K through 8th grade. High schoolers will be allowed to take limited classes on AI ethics, usage, etc. https://abc7ny-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abc7ny.com/amp/post/new-york-city-public-schools-banning-ai-use-middle-school-year/19778716/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17884386971687&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fabc7ny.com%2Fpost%2Fnew-york-city-public-schools-banning-ai-use-middle-school-year%2F19778716%2F
Personally, I think you need to treat AI like you do with Sex Education; Students are going to try to use it behind their teachers and parents back so they need to learn the risks and ethical uses of it early on.
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u/OnlyInAmerica01 21h ago
Er...shouldn he just ban murder and other crimes, and be done with it? What's this nickel and dine b.s.
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u/DelphiTsar 21h ago
A private tutor is one of the best things for a child, puts them in 98%tile. AI isn't a private tutor exactly but helps fill the gap by being infinitely patient and effectively free.
You obviously can't sit a child in a schoolroom in front of ChatGPT and expect it to do anything but harm. That's why things like Khanmigo exist. Socratic (Doesn't give the kid answers), alerts instructor when kids are trying to jailbreak it for answers. Stuff like that.
I hope they open up exceptions. Khanmigo getting wrapped up in this is not good. At least kids can still use it at home
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u/Tasty_Dirt783 20h ago
soon he will “achieve” nyc an Islamic state oppression for every woman and non believers
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u/Remote_Nectarine_837 20h ago
If Democrats Socialists are just Democrats without the corruption I might have to sign up. I’m really over the corruption within the Democrat party and the Democratic Socialists might be the answer. If Mandami keeps this up and he isn’t corrupt the Democrats aka centrists aka moderate democrats have a problem on their hands.
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u/Daywalker731 20h ago
Mandatory Quran Teachings next. Gotta warp their lil minds at an early age and get everyone back to the 1200’s.
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u/Tough-Interaction468 19h ago
so.. he banned computers and cell phones in class? If so, I say hurah. But I'm sure it's just all talk.
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u/Beautiful-Ad-9107 19h ago
Like banning computers in the 90s.
Kids will use AI at home. This accomplishes nothing
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u/WeekendAtMadoffs 16h ago
Lower graduation and literacy rates than CUBA.
at 100x the cost per student.
wow. AI is really the problem.
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u/Any-Technician6415 12h ago
I’m sure that’ll go over well with kids that wanna compete in a moderate society with employers that are looking for people with experience using AI
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