r/SUMC Aug 01 '26

SSU Spider-Man: Brand New Day Official Discussion Megathread (Spoilers) Spoiler

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r/SUMC May 27 '26

SSU Spider-Noir Episode 1: "Step Into My Office" | Official Discussion Thread on r/MarvelNoir Spoiler

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r/SUMC 1d ago

Spider-Man In Spider-Man 3, Eddie spends only two hours under Venom's influence.

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Between the church scene and the final fight, there are no daytime scenes, so it is clearly the same evening.

The jazz club scene must take place around 9:00 or 9:30 PM, given that no one is having dinner.

Peter then goes to the church to rid himself of the symbiote, which Eddie subsequently takes over.

Next, Peter returns home and talks to Aunt May; it must be around 10:00 PM.

Then comes the final confrontation involving four key characters; the time must be close to 11:00 PM, considering the large crowd present, including Jameson and children.

This means Eddie Brock spent about two hours under the influence of the symbiote and Venom.

In just two hours, he managed to cross paths with Sandman by chance, fully master his powers—to the point of killing Harry—and become so dependent on the symbiote that he refused to part with it, lunging back toward it despite the presence of the bomb.


r/SUMC 4h ago

Discussion Challenge: What changes would you have made to Peter's parents' plotline in the TASM films to make it better, without dropping it entirely?

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I personally think it would have been awesome if, similar to the Ultimate comics, which these movies were heavily inspired by, Richard Parker and Eddie Brock Sr. were working together on a cure for Norman Osborn's disease, and this led them to create the Venom symbiote, an unstable genetic mosaic of vastly different organic material, with Richard using his own human stem cells as a starting base, and then adding cephalopod genes, regenerative animal genes, engineered micro-organisms, and synthetic, ultimately creating a synthetic bio armor that protects a host; however, the symbiote proved to be too dangerous to use as a cure, as tests showed that the bio armor would slowly consume the host in an attempt to kill the diseased cells, causing the host to lose autonomy and turn into an undead, monstrous creature; therefore, Norman attempted to repurpose it as a bioweapon and tool to create super soldiers, planning to sell these super soldiers and bioweapons to foreign militaries, to fund his continued search for a cure, leading to Richard fleeing with his research, and then he and Mary got killed by Norman's assassin on the plane; the Venom symbiote was essentially an extension of Richard and Curt Connor's cross-species genetic research.


r/SUMC 19h ago

Spider-Man Spiderman puede darle pelea a Homelander?

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Le pregunte esto a un amigo y me dijo que Homelander le da mil vueltas a peter , cosa de la k yo no quiero creer


r/SUMC 9h ago

SSU Sony Cinematic universe pitch thread

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We all know Sony Failed at building a shared universe around their characters 3 times: from the cancelled TASM spinoffs to the recent SSU shutdown. It’s wild that a billion-dollar studio kept failing at this.

I was wondering, if we go back to sonys "peak" in ip's when they owned spider-man and ghost rider (02-'12) given 2 flagship marvel ips, i was wondering what would your phase one be in a sony cinematic universe


r/SUMC 1d ago

Discussion An Incomplete Symbiote Saga - Eliminating Venom.

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r/SUMC 1d ago

Spider-Man Spiderman 3 Rewatch

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if robbie robbinson knew parkers identity in spiderman 3, why did he not say anything when brock posted those fake black suit bank photos?

Still like this film despite it's flaws.


r/SUMC 2d ago

Discussion Why did Spider-Man in the 60’s cartoon spin webs like 👍 & 👉 instead of 🤟?

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Not sure if this is allowed, but I’ve wondered why he never spun webs in the traditional way. Was it due to animation issues or something else?


r/SUMC 1d ago

Discussion SPIDER-MAN 2 IS A REMAKE AND NOBODY NOTICED

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r/SUMC 1d ago

Fan Content How I would've written The Amazing Spider-man 3

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Potential Castings:

Jamie Foxx as Max Dillion/Electro.

Paul Giamatti as Aleksei Sytsevich/The Rhino

David Tennant as Quentin Beck

Bryan Cranston as Norman Osborn and also the Hobgoblin.

Ok so in this one there are going to be a bit more villains. But don't worry there would only be one villain. They are; Rhino, Electro and The Hobgoblin. The Osborns would also be involved in this. But Harry would not be Peter’s never before mentioned childhood friend. This would be their first meeting and a friendship will bloom from that. And Norman will be present in the whole movie.

I took some stuff from the 90s series, a little from the Ultimate comics, and ASM #121-122. Iykyk

Now realistically for this movie to exist, it can’t come out in 2016 or 2017. It would clash with Civil War and Homecoming.

So This version of The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have to come out around 2018.

In this alternate earth which is two inches to the left from our's, Sony weren’t fucking idiots. So instead of hogging Spidey for themselves, they shared him with Marvel.

So it means, in this proposed universe, Both the Mcu Spidey and Tasm movies are active franchises.

Tom Holland will be used by the MCU, while Garfield will only be in Sony Spidey movies. Got that?

Good.

Now lets begin.

So this movie would take place a few months after Tasm 2.

Peter would be 18, close to being 19.

Around Graduation day. The movie would open with that.

With characters like Gwen, MJ and Flash excited about their future.

Gwen wants to study in Oxford, MJ wants to pursue a career in acting and Flash wants to join the army.

The cap and gown ceremony is coming closer and closer.

And everyone is wondering.

Where is Peter?

He is, in fact, in the middle of stopping an exciting Bank Heist being carried out by Electro and his goons. (Look I’m not going to spend an entire movie explaining how his teeth gap got closed. Let's just say it happened offscreen.)

And Electro's personality would be more similar to his NWH one.

A lot more jokey, bantering and threatening.

Anyways, What they were actually stealing is just a bunch of money.

Actually this entire robbery is a set-up. With the intention of getting Peter’s blood. Which we would find out later in the story. Right now Peter is just trying to stop these guys.

A long winded chase begins.

Stretching to the Brooklyn bridge.

The fight comes down to a battle between Peter and Electro.

With Electro gaining the high ground.

His electricity affects Peter’s web-shooters. But his suit is able to protect him. All the while this entire action sequence was taking place, it would be interspaced with Gwen's speech.

It can be similar to the one she delivers in the real Tasm 2.

Cuz that is a damn good speech.

Eventually Peter is able to Electro down by tackling him into the river and causing his electric powers to short circuit.

It would be a fun way to open the movie.

Showing Peter is much more confident and heroic now.

Closer to a traditional spider-man.

Enjoy it while you can.

I will not grant this to you again.

So he saves the day.

Returns all the money to the bank.

The police thank him.

He high fives a few new yorkers.

Enjoying himself.

Then he remembers It's Graduation Day.

So he tries to get back to school as fast as possible.

He swings in just in time. Although he lands near the librarian from the first two movies. With him saying “Don’t I know you from somewhere”.

And peter would reply “Yeah from the cartoons”.

“Oh right. Spectacular stuff. Such a shame they cancelled it.” The Librarian would say as Peter runs off to somewhere else to take his mask. (Final cameo from Stan Lee).

Peter comes in and accepts his diploma.

....and then proceeds to viciously make out with Gwen.

It is mandatory.

Afterwards the four friends hang out, showing Peter is calmer than he was in the last two films. Less standoffish and sarcastic.

He says goodbye to Flash who will not be returning into the narrative for now. MJ says her farewell to Gwen and Peter. Hiding the feelings she still harbors for him.

We would see Peter and Gwen date more openly. (hint hint)

With Peter being more open about his feelings and concerns with her. (wink wink)

And she Doesn't tell him about her plans just yet.

Because she wants to spend more time with him (The foreshadowing is more subtle Than a brick to the face)

A bit of time will pass, with Gwen spending time with Peter and May.

Showing how close she has become to the Parker family.

After a lot of human moments

The time has come For Peter to leave for college.

He leaves Aunt May's house.

We can have a touching moment here.

With Peter wishing Uncle Ben had been around to see him graduate. And Aunt May saying he is with them always He moves to Queens to attend the college he applied to.

Shifting into a cheap apartment near his college.

No Mr. Ditkovich and Ursula this time.

But he does interact with a different fun character in his apartment.

Quientin Beck played by David Tennant.

He would be Peter's grouchy older

Neighbor. A small time vfx artist who has been laid off recently.

I think it would create a lot of humorous scenes with Them interacting a few times.

Mostly being indifferent to each other.

Not knowing the other's secret identity.

Anyways. Peter would be attending his college. Trying to fit in. Feeling a bit isolated without his friends around. He doesn’t get picked on but he does feel like he is unseen. This is where he would meet Harry Osborn. Both finding a common ground in their interest in their love for science. And the lack of fathers.

Through Harry, Peter would realise he is the son of Norman Osborn. Who Harry says stays out of state most of the time.

Peter would get into contact with Conners to learn more about Norman. Curious about the man he has heard so much about.

Conners would be hesitant to talk about him But eventually reveal some details. Norman was their partner during their college days.

Ambitious and Sharp minded.

He began a small genetics and gene therapy company, Oscorp.

Richard and Curt joined his company soon after.

Working as the head scientists on several projects.

Propelling Oscorp to great Heights.

Eventually, Norman began taking contracts from the Army, and branched the company off into creating Military tech and Weapons.

Something Curt was against.

But Richard was fine with it.

Which began creating a rift between the friends.

Eventually Norman contracted a mysterious debilitating disease.

So a cross-species experiment was started by Curt and Richard to produce a cure for diseases and illnesses that no viable remedies exist for.

Richard researching on Spiders, Conners researching on Lizards.

For some reason Richard suddenly abandoned his research, destroying his notes and leaving the country with his wife.

Mysteriously dying in a plane crash.

Curt ends the call by saying to be wary of Norman. He is not a bad person, but he is ambitious. Even when life has brought him to death's door.

Meanwhile.

We would then switch to a goon's hideout.

With Electro holding a vial full of Peter’s blood which he took during their. Gloating about how powerful he was able to get before he got defeated. Wondering how much more his powers can evolve.

Just then, a man enters the hideout.

It’s the mysterious man from the first Tasm movie.

He's here, asking Max for the vial.

Max doesn’t want to give him the vial. And instead wants to negotiate a higher price. Saying “I know how desperately you need it. So give me a fair slice of the pie will ya?”

To which the man says “As you wish.”

“Here’s your slice.” And stabs Electro in the gut. He shakes erratically and bursts into a ball of blue energy, dissipating in the air.

His thugs back off at seeing their boss being killed.

The man leaves, a bit of his face being revealed. He is wearing a golden mask, resembling a goblin.

We would then be introduced to Norman Osborn. In a much more different way than the Raimi movies.

We see that Gwen no longer works at Oscorp, after their experiments with Gargan. Instead a new Scientist is giving the tour, one by the name of Miles. And we would get a build up to his reveal, with holograms and old pictures of his, portraying him as this almost untouchable figure.

Then at the very top of Oscorp Tower, we see Norman Osborn in a special room. Bedridden, hooked up to an IV. Barely clinging onto life.

His skin a shade of dull green, eyes yellowed from something akin to jaundice. Osborn’s voice will be similar to the mystery man who killed Electro. Both characters being played by Bryan Cranston.

He would be bedridden, reading the news about Spider-man.

He is surrounded by characters like

Hammerhead, Silvermane and Tombstone.

All of the crime bosses have been given money to retrieve a sample of Spider-man’s blood.

All have failed.

Norman chastises them.

Showing that even in a near death state, These guys fear Norman.

Because if he dies, it would create a gigantic power vacuum in New York’s economy.

Oscorp’s future dying with him.

It would be implied that Norman’s condition has worsened since the first movie.

With him barely being able to move.

Relying on a third party to retrieve a sample of Spider-man’s blood.

Right now the only source to the spider serum Richard Parker had created.

He receives a bit of a serum synthesized from the blood.

Upon injection his skin begins to change, a healthy amount of warmth returning to him.

His eyes returning to normal.

Yet still being bedridden.

"All the money and fame in the world......yet I'm always on death's door every waking moment." he says. Now his voice Sounding exactly like the stranger who retrieved the blood.

“I must have more of the spider serum…….i need it. And I’ll take it myself if I have to.” He says, looking at the mobsters in front of him.

Meanwhile!

With Gwen and Peter, they are having another mandatory makeout session. On the Brooklyn Bridge no less. Their favorite date night spot.

All the while Gwen is building up the courage to tell him about her choice to pursue her studies at Oxford.

Something she has been putting off from telling him. He is of course a bit taken aback by this. Thinking about how their relationship would work with the distance added.

Peter: “I can work in UK right? They’re cool with superheroes.”

Gwen: “I don’t think they are.”

Peter is taking the news lightly, still joking and being funny.

But Gwen can tell he is concerned about her going away.

Saying “Peter, if you want to talk about this, talk. I’ll listen. We should clear everything before we take any step. Whichever direction it is.”

Peter is not wanting to be serious right now. Wanting to live in the coziness for a bit longer.

Then…..he feels strange.

His Spidey Senses going off.

He turns around to see a stream of Green Smoke disappearing behind some buildings. In the direction of Times Square. He has to call the date off, webbing her down on the ground as he swings into action, as Spider-man.

We see Times Square. People returning from work, couples on dates, a few people wearing Spidey Merch. A Police officer is buying some hotdogs for her partners. When suddenly……something falls in front of her feet.

A round object, orange and black in colour. A red light blinking on the top.

BOOM!

Everyone is sent flying, as an explosion erupts. It was a bomb.

Chaos erupts on the streets.

Cars flip over.

Almost hitting some kids.

Spidey shows up to save the day.

Webbing up debris from falling on anyone.

He uses web cartridges as web bombs to trap debris.

He rushes to those who were injured.

The bomb ended up killing a few officers.

With Peter rescuing one who is near death, wearing a spider-man watch.

He holds the officer as she passes away in his arms, saying she is going to be late for her anniversary again.

Peter hears a low, distant chuckle.

Along with a low whirring sound.

His spider senses ring loudly.

He jumps in the air.

Avoiding being rammed by the twin blades of a bluish glider.

Peter: "Alright. You've got my attention. You must feel real proud of yourself after murdering innocent policemen, huh?"

In front of him comes a man clad in blueish armor, golden gloves, a tattered cloak that shrouds his face in shadow. Only thing visible are his golden mask, and crimson eyes that seem to glow even in the open.

"I've heard so many great things about you. Mostly from Dillion, i couldn't stop myself from seeing.....what's so special about New York's Bug." He smiles, his crooked teeth visible even in the dark.

Peter decides to not waste time. And begins fighting this guy, trying to divert him from the public.

He takes advantage of this.

Often throwing his pumpkin bombs towards people which Peter has to deflect using his webs to either fling them away or to detonate them before they reach anyone.

This leaves him open for attacks.

With the man slashing at Peter's chest.

He jumps on his back, trying to web him up.

But the fight is far too intense to be stopped so quickly.

Soon enough Both fall off of the glider.

Ending up on top of a billboard.

Fighting on top of a news segment from J.Jonah Jameson. As he is narrating this exact fight, Realising it is quite literally taking on top of his head.

The opponent proves to be quite strong.

Making Peter wonder if he is taking any performance enhancements to fight him.

He manages to slash at Peter's arm,

destroying a web-shooter.

Unbeknownst to him, He has secretly taken a sample of his blood as well.

"Mmm. Not bad kiddo. But I've gotta run. You go play with your toys hm?" He throws five bombs near the electrical cables under the ground. Bursting them open. Peter senses the open cable sending electricity flying everywhere.

He dives forward. He can sense the

electricity travelling towards a few people.

He uses his remaining web-shooter to weave a long rope. Tying all of them together in a web cocoon. As he flung them away from danger, the electricity barely missing them.

He successfully saves everyone there. All of them are cheering for him.

He looks up at the Billboard And man is gone. Leaving Peter with a lot of questions.

Jonah: "Another Masked freak has invaded the city because of this Webhead. And they said exiling him to Boston was a bad idea. Hmph!"

Jonah of course blames the appearance of this new villain on Spider-Man.

With the press naming him,

Goblin.

But Jonah, trying to be more special names him,

The Hobgoblin.

A few days go by. Peter is still dealing with the injuries he got from the fight with the Goblin. His hand wrapped in bandage. Meaning he Won't be able to use a web-shooter on that hand for the time being.

JJ is as usual painting Spider-man as a villain, saying that he was working with this new Masked Villain to make himself look better. For the meantime, Peter doesn’t really acknowledge this. Instead he begins investigating who that was. Because that attack was completely unprompted and unmotivated. He had picked up the shells of the pumpkin bombs that were used in the fight. It's made up of a synthetic tinplate alloy which Peter discovers is used in traditional Military Grenades. He wonders how could someone get access to this.

Unless they weren’t working alone….

Peter suspects Oscorp is once again behind this attack. He calls Conners, and the two discuss about this attack. Conners suspects that it might be the work of Norman.

Since by now his disease would be at It's last stages.

But the spider serum will act as a remedy to it.

The question is, How much of his blood do they have?

Conners tells Peter to wait until he can come back to New York, since he is on vacation with his Family in Florida.

Peter says yes, but immediately does something reckless.

He breaks into Oscorp at midnight.

He crawls in through the vents, seeing Conner's old lab. He makes his way to the data room, jumping down silently.

No one seems to be around.

Even the security guards aren't here right now.

Peter begins to rummage through the files in that room.

He finds different project files.

A file on the Scorpion suit Oscorp cooked up. The Rhino suit and Shocker's gauntlets as well.

He also sees different weapons they've made under their military contract.

Including an experimental halo jump suit And a glider that can be used manually by a flier.

Peter Recognizes these as the tech the Hobgoblin was using.

His suspicion was Justified.

They were Oscorp tech.

He notices the inventor's name.

Norman Osborn.

"Tech rejected due to not meeting Geneva Convention standards. Reasoning: Too Violent" The description for the tech say this.

Peter has a look in his eyes at seeing

Osborn's picture. The Jawline looking Familiar somehow.

He puts the file back in its place.

He was about to leave.

When he notices a much bigger file at the back.

He slowly pulls it out.

And reads the Heading at the Front.

"Spider-man".

He flips it open.

There are diagnostics about his anatomy.

The potential changes the spider serum

could've done to his dna.

"Potential for Organic Webbing: 0.246 %".

He sees more.

Facts written about his strength.

Durability.

Agility.

His intellect.

Theories about if it is influenced by the spider dna.

What kind of fabric he uses.

His Web fluid formula.

Potential counter measures for it.

And then he sees

His picture.

Not Spider-Man.

His.

Peter Parker.

Photos from his childhood.

His school years.

Pictures of Ben and May.

His friends.

Him and Gwen together.

The recent one is from his Graduation.

They know.

THEY KNOW WHO HE IS.

Peter begins to panic.

He puts the file back in its place.

Then a voice comes on.

"Awfully curious for a bug, aren't you?" It's the Hobgoblin's voice.

Peter doesn't stick around.

He quickly webs up to the vents and runs out of Oscorp.

He doesn't stop until he reaches his

apartment.

Panicking.

Hyperventilating.

They know who he is. They know Peter Parker is Spider-man.

Peter closes up his windows, tries to call Conners.

He picks up and Peter tells him what he saw. Conners tells Peter to lay low for now. To not let them know that he has found out what they know about him.

That's the only way. Because he won't be able to just destroy those files and go about his day.

Oscorp would still know who Peter is.

And they'll always be watching him and his loved ones.

We would see Peter stare at the corner of his room.

Wondering if they are watching him at this very moment.

We would get a better look at our

villain now.

A golden oni mask which looks odd

compared to the militaristic aesthetic.

But somehow it fits.

Faded blue armor and gauntlets and a tattered cloak he has hung up on a mantle.

His steel blue glider laid on the ground.

There are old pictures on the desk.

With red cross marks on them.

Including one that has Richard and Mary Parker.

We see him put the blood sample he has collected from Peter into smaller vials. The blood is cured, with the serum being extracted from it.

We see Norman then inject himself with the serum while in Oscorp Tower, in his bed.

His skin color is closer to olive now instead of green. His eyes are also less yellow.

We would get an interaction between Harry and Norman here.

One thing I'll say, is that Harry is a bit

different from how he is usually portrayed.

He is more of a soft spoken guy, which is why a lot of people like him at college. Including Peter.

In front Norman, he doesn't talk. And would even look like he is afraid of him.

Norman never hits Harry, his words are enough. He would constantly be dismissive of harry, would belittle him and would generally be neglectful towards him.

Through Harry Norman would learn that he has become Friends with a boy named Peter Parker at his college.

Making Norman contemplate about this development.

Meanwhile we'll get some downtime with Gwen and May. She has become almost family to May, with her spoiling Gwen frequently.

Peter is spending time with them. Still tensed about what he learnt.

He would get spooked by the smallest things.

At a certain point he catches something near Aunt May's face with his hands.

Thinking it was a bullet.

But it was just a fly.

May is baffled, thinking he is probably stressed about studies.

But Gwen suspects It's something else.

She asks him what's wrong and he reveals that Oscorp is constantly monitoring him and those close to him.

Gwen is not that shocked by this, saying that It's natural they would try to figure out who he was and keep an eye on him. But she doesn't seem that panicked. Gwen basically says "I'm in this with you. No matter what happens. We do this together."

Gwen then suggests that Peter get some leverage on the Hobgoblin. If they know about his secret identity, he should figure out the Goblin's.

Meanwhile, We would see that Norman's condition is slowly improving. But that the effects of the serum is temporary, meaning he will need to rely on them to survive. There would be strong implications that he is the Hobgoblin.

Using Gwen's help, Peter is able to isolate a location were the Hobgobline was last seen on cctv footage. He sneaks into that area, eventually find a secret bunker below a subway car. He crawls on the ceiling, hiding in the shadows. The bunker is completely barren. It doesn’t seem like anyone has ever entered it. But Peter finds a small clue. Behind brick, a compartment holding vials of his blood, synthesized to recreate the serum. He realises this must be the Hobgoblin's hideout. He places small cameras in various corners, hiding them well. While he is tempted to destroy the samples, he decides to instead take one vial with him for testing.

Later the Hobgoblin would enter his hideout. And although Peter left no evidence, the Goblin would suspect someone had entered the place.

In the following weeks Peter would test the sample in secret, at his college's lab. Finding out that the minute traces of spider serum in his bloodstream is potent enough to cure most diseases. Like his Father had intended. But in smaller doses, like the amount in the vials, the effect would only be short term.

He gets an alert on his cellphone. Five cameras were triggered. He checks the photos.

The first one is too dark. The second and third only captured photos of the Goblin from the back.

The fourth, however, got a clear angle of his face.

Peter sees that the Hobgoblin is Norman Osborn. Looking much more healthier than how we have been seeing him throughout the plot.

The fifth photo shows him looking directly at the camera.

"Uh oh." Peter got what he wanted. But now he might be in even more danger. His Spidey senses go off suddenly.

Ringing like crazy.

It's overwhelming.

He looks around.

Trying to figure out what's triggering it.

He rushes past everyone, running outside.

No one is around. Yet he can still sense that

danger is nearby.

Then he closes his eyes.

And then shoots his webs at a certain direction.

The web is instantly deflected with a blade.

It's the Goblin.

"Impressive. That sense of your's." He says to Peter.

Peter asks him what he wants.

The Goblin would then say "Me? Nothing. Just came by to return these." He threw the small cameras that Peter had placed.

All shattered.

"It's rude to be a peeping tom. Your uncle taught you that right? Before he got shot. Or was it a different life lesson."

The Goblin threw a pumpkin bomb towards Peter. He quickly caught it with his web and flung it away.

But it didn't explode.

This causes the Hobgoblin to burst into a fit of laughter.

Revealing that it was a fake.

But if Peter continues to get in his way, the next one will be very real.

Peter can do nothing but let him walk away.

Even after learning the Goblin's identity, Peter is still a step behind.

He visits Gwen at her apartment later, still a bit shaken up by what happened.

They try to figure out what to do with the fact that Norman Osborn is apparently the Hobgoblin.

While Gwen is cooking up plans, Peter sees her room.

Most of her stuff are in boxes now.

He sees the first aid box from the first film,reminiscing about that night.

Peter would then ask "You got in? Oxford."

Gwen would freeze up. Slowly she admitted

that she got the acceptance letter a few

days ago.

He asks her when She's leaving.

Gwen would then reveal that she is not sure if she wants to leave.

A small argument would occur, with Peter urging her to not put her goals on hold for him or anyone else. Gwen would counter it by saying she can and she will put them on hold. Only for him.

Both understand where the other is coming from.

But Peter doesn't want her life to get

derailed because of him.

"I'm not a kid Peter. My dad thought that, please Don't do that to me." This would put an end to the argument for now. With Peter leaving her apartment after saying sorry and giving her a kiss. Gwen is sacrificing her dream for him. For him.

This would motivate Peter to take things more seriously. He needs to put an end to the Hobgoblin.

This would about the mid point of the movie.

With Peter deciding to confront the

Hobgoblin head on.

His Spider sense goes off as he swings near the Goblin's hideout.

He snuck into the place. Now determined to take him down.

Inside the bunker, there were a lot more things now.

The Goblin's glider.

The blades look unbelievably sharp.

There are lab equipments, different vials of spider serum, divided into small doses.

Small enough to be a capsule. He sees the pictures the Goblin has on his desk. Peter takes a photo, having a feeling all of these may come in handy as evidence.

He notices the photo of his dad and mom, with red crossed out mark.

He gets distracted by it.

Not hearing the low whirring of the glider turning on.

He gets tipped off, and jumps out of the way as the glider's blades almost miss him.

The Goblin says "You can't follow simple orders. Did you get dropped as a kid or something?"

He's annoyed that Peter didn't back off.

And so a second fight breaks out.

This one takes place exclusively on the Glider. With Peter flip flopping between staying on Hobgoblin's back and Hanging onto the glider from below.

They fly around the city.

With the Goblin trying to shake him off of him, trying to smash him into billboards, buildings or oncoming traffic.

Peter blinds his vision with his web, relying on his sole web-shooter due to the injury he still has.

They slam into walls, fly through apartment windows, going all the way to the Empire State Building. Leading to both being

knocked off of the glider when the reach the top of the building.

They keep on fighting each other while falling.

Goblin tries to stab Peter in the stomach,barely missing him. All the while Peter has been trying to remove Goblin's mask, but failing to do so.

Eventually they both land on the glider, which is out of control and flies them straight into Jonah's office at the Daily Bugle.

Fighting right in there.

All of this culminates in Peter being on top of Goblin, beating up on him. And trying to get his mask off in order to expose him while in public.

His spider sense goes off, but it was too late.

The glider rams into him, the blades barelynmissing him.

"Stay out of my way Spider-man. Or you will regret being born!" He says to Peter as he flies away. While throwing a grenade right near Peter's face.

But he is surprisingly saved by Jonah who kicks the bomb away and down the giant hole that was now in his office's wall.

Then tells him "GET OUT OF MY OFFICE YOU WALL CRAWLING, WEB HEADED MENACE!"

The goblin goes back to his hideout.

And sees that while they were fighting Peter had detonated Web grenades all around the place.

Causing the vials to get destroyed.

This makes him very angry.

As he sets the place on fire out of rage.

Peter meanwhile decides that enough is

enough, he anonymously sends the photos

he has taken to both the police and the

press.

The next day the story is published

"Millionaire Philanthropist is indeed The

Hobgoblin! In Leagues with

Spider-man?!?!"

The Police raid Oscorp Tower.

Finding evidence that the Hobgoblin's gear

was created there.

But they don't find Norman Osborn

His bed is empty.

That doesn't matter.

At least it gets him off of Peter's back for

now.

And so.

He utilises that free time.

By spending time with Gwen.

Obviously.

They spend the evening together. Because It's revealed Gwen has decided to move, thanks to Peter's encouragement.

Her flight is later that night, she has packed up all of her stuff. They share one last date.

Gwen wonders if the long distance will affect their relationship but Peter is confident they'll be able to make it work.

She mentions something about the Goblin, saying It's weird how he was able to move so quickly even with the disease.

Peter asks what she means.

She explains that Conners once mentioned that it was a very debilitating disease.

Osborn was barely able to get up from the bed most days, and that was back in 2012.

Meaning his condition should've worsened by now.

This makes Peter suspicious.

After the date ends he calls up Conners again. Explaining what has happened and what he learnt.

Curt would then say that there is no way Norman would've been able to move around like that.

Especially with that little amount of serum in his veins. Peter has A sinking feeling in his stomach.

He puts his suit on and sets out, as the sun begins to set. We see The Goblin at his hideout. Angry and seething.

"That brat.......I'll skin him alive when I get my hands on him." "But for now, I need to take care of this police problem he has created for me." "Or I should say.......us."

"Right? Norman?" He takes his mask off, looking at Norman Osborn who has been hung up on a rack.

"You......you look like me?" Norman looks in absolute Bafflement. Because the man in front of him looks exactly like him.

"Impressive isn't it? I think I wear this mug better than you." The Goblin says, grinning at him.

Norman: "You bastard. Because of you my name is being dragged through the mud! What's your endgame?! Money?! That's it?!"

"Well if it isn't the kettle calling the teapot black." Hobgoblin says while packing up a large canister of the spider serum he had saved up.

We then understand what has been

happening here The Hobgoblin is a frequent jobber for Oscorp.

Their silent assassin And he had been quite reliable for years.

Because he was being paid properly.

But ever since the hit Oscorp's image took in Tasm 2, Their stocks had been suffering. And Hobgoblin wasn't getting the amount of money he thought deserves weapons.

And selling them off on the black market. While keeping the flight suit and glider to create his Goblin ensemble. As for the serum, He was intentionally giving Norman lower

Dosages. In order to bleed him dry of money. And when he was finished with Norman, He would've sold the serum to the highest bidder.

But now that he only has one canister left of the spider serum. He is instead going to change his plans.

He is now going to frame Norman completely for all the crimes the Hobgoblin committed. And he himself would pose as the real

Norman Osborn, in order to take control of Oscorp himself.

Norman: "I would rather be tortured to death than let scums like you touch my work."

Hobgoblin: "Oh don't worry Normy. You will die. But You'll be doing me a generous favor by taking the fall. It'll be fun posing as you, and enjoying all the money that company of yours has to offer. After all, I'm something of a Philanthropist myself."

Just then the Hobgoblin hears someone say "Hey I think you lost this!"

And the Hobgoblin gets hit in the chest by one of his own Pumpkin bombs.

Sending him crashing into a wall, causing a small fire to spread.

It's Peter, who had been on the ceiling. Waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. He comes down and goes to where the Hobgoblin had crashed into.

Finding only rubble and smoke.

Along with a torn piece of latex.

The bottom piece of the Norman Osborn disguise the Hobgoblin was wearing. He hears Norman fall to the ground. He is breathing laboriously.

His skin dark green, hair sickly looking, and eyes yellowed.

His hand reaching out towards the spider serum canister.

Desperate.

Real fear in his eyes.

Peter looks between him and the serum.

Wondering what he should do.

If he should do anything.

Peter then comes towards him.

Norman looks up, wondering what he is going to do.

Peter takes the canister.

And then injects it into Norman.

Norman lets out a sigh of relief.

His skin is gradually changing colour.

But this time, The changes are more drastic.

His hair gaining a more healthy color. And his eyes return to their normal colour.

He helps Norman stand up. As Police begin to arrive at the area.

“Thank you. I owe you everything. And……I’m sorry for the trouble you went through because of my illness.”

Peter simply nods and says “The Hobgoblin…….he has escaped.”

Norman: “I know. I’m ashamed that my company had been utilising criminals like him while I was unable to take control of Oscorp.”

Peter understands that Norman isn’t the Hobgoblin. And that Norman Osborn was, at least in this case, an innocent man. He hands him over to the police. As he is cleared of the crimes the Goblin did while disguised as him. They recover a lot of things, extra gadgets that were stolen from Oscorp, black money And most importantly, fake ids.

Jason Macendale, Ned Leeds and Rodrick Kingsley being some of the ones. Peter swings through the city. Perching on the ledge of the Empire State Building, looking at the torn piece of Norman Osborn mask. He has saved the day.

But wonders if It’s really over.


r/SUMC 2d ago

Spider-Man Les conseils de drague de Monsieur Ditkovich dans Spider-Man 3

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Vous allez les suivre ? 😁


r/SUMC 3d ago

Spider-Man What did everyone think about the Stark Suit?

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The suit looks good. I just don’t like the extra lines on it.


r/SUMC 3d ago

Discussion How does Peter (Tom) photographer job help him financially

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Recently I've been getting interested in Spider-Man as a DC fan, I watched some of the movies and the animated shows but not all of it, k haven't planned on reading the comics just yet.

But I'm wondering, how would Peter (specifically Tim Holland) get money? Since Peter is known for his low paying job in the Daily Bugle as a photographer, which would make sense if it's during the 2000s. Even if Peter did have his job as photographer , he still wasn't financially stable. But now nobody reads newspaper, trying to find one even took me forever to find somebody selling newspaper.

Peters job as a photographer made sense since nobody in the 2000s had Camera's in their phones, pictures of spider man would be hard to grasp. And it made sense it would be a job. But now anyone could take them, so Peters job would be practically useless now. Well unless Tony Starks gives him the money/funds.

Honestly I watched every movie that had Tom in it, but I don't know he personally isn't my favorite so I can't really recall or remember much on what happened in his movies, I liked him more as a solo rather than the avengers existing. (⁠´⁠°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥⁠ω⁠°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥⁠`⁠)


r/SUMC 3d ago

Spider-Man In Spider-Man 3, if Spider-Man didn't break Eddie's camera, Eddie wouldn't hold a grudge against him and wouldn't have faked the photos.

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Without that, Eddie would have stayed at the Daily Bugle, wouldn't have become Venom, and Harry wouldn't have died.


r/SUMC 3d ago

Spider-Man Tom Holland spiderman origin theory

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r/SUMC 4d ago

Fan Content How I would've written The Amazing Spider-man 2

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Potential Castings for new characters:

Sam Witwer as Mac Gargan/Scorpion.

Rose Leslie as Mary Jane Watson.

So the first thought was to tie up the loose ends from Tasm 1.

Like Uncle Ben's killer.

Peter and Gwen's breakup.

Conner's whole lizard thing.

So this is my Pitch for a better Tasm 2.

First and foremost.

The Suit stays.

Tasm 1 suit is a badass suit.

It deserves more than one movie.

So this movie should pick up around Peter's final year in Highschool.

 

He's doing pretty alright. His image as Spider-man has improved significantly since the first movie.

He and Gwen are still broken up tho.

With Peter actively avoiding her.

Because he constantly remembers Captain Stacy's last words. He would have one friend tho.

Flash.

 

They would still have somewhat of a rivalry but Flash looks out for Peter a lot in this movie. Basically serving the role of best friend in this universe. And he is a massive Spider-man fan. So much so Peter indirectly gets some costume ideas from him. Like making his lenses white so people aren’t intimidated by him.

The suit is still pretty beaten up due to constantly being worn by Peter for 2 years. So it would have extra pieces that cover the wear and tears. Like maybe added gloves. Or raised webbing.

The gold lens are really cool. But it had an aesthetic purpose. He made the suit with the intention of scaring criminals. Now that he is a full-time superhero, he would want to make himself more approachable.

 

Now.

 

The story would begin with Curt Conners being put on probation, placed under the care of his ex-wife. Conners deeply regrets what he did. Especially killing George Stacy. We would get to explore the family life of the lizard. A different take on it.

We would explain that he had been divorced to his wife for a few years before Tasm 1. And he is battling withdrawal syndromes from not using the Lizard Serum. He is being helped by Peter, who genuinely wants to help Curt recover. And we would also get hints of him and his wife maybe rekindling their relationship. Gwen, however, is not happy with Conner's release. She knows he had no control, but she still hates him for her dad's death.

And because Peter is helping him, Gwen begins to be cold towards him as well.

 

We would focus on three sides of Peter's life.

His home life.

His Highschool life.

And his Spider-man life.

In highschool a new student has transferred to midtown high. And by transfer I mean she was expelled and was admitted to Midtown high.

I hope you can figure out who this is.

 

So I was trying to figure out who would fit MJ.

Especially back in 2014.

And I have a pretty good candidate.

Rose Leslie.

I've only ever seen her in Game Of Thrones.

But I think she would have been able to pull off MJ's confident, Sassy personality.

Y-You know the personality she used to have before they butchered her forever.

She would be the potential love interest in this movie. Since Peter and Gwen are currently at odds with each other.

 

She would immediately take a liking to Peter, who would be a bit confused cuz this is the first time a girl has shown interest in him first instead of the other way around.

She's a bit of a troublemaker, getting into detentions and doing it with a smile.

Flash used to date her before, but he tells Peter that he wouldn't be able to handle her. Peter's home life is a bit better, he uses the excuse of working at the Bugle as a cover for his Spider-man work.

Aunt May suspects something cuz she Isn't fucking blind.

But doesn't comment on it.

He has been tinkering with his web shooters. Applying different mechanisms to create stickier webs, and create web balls and other nifty stuff like that.

He is beginning to think about moving out, since maintaining the house on her and Peter's salary alone is getting a bit tough.

We can get great emotional and human moments out of this conflict.

And lets add some more human conflict.

Cuz MJ is his new Neighbour Next-door neighbour.

 

And initially he doesn't really want to talk with her, cuz he still has feelings for Gwen and also he doesn't want anyone to get close to him.

But she eventually wins him over with her optimistic and joyful personality.

And they would slowly become friends.

He would see glimpses of her home life due to this. Seeing that her dad is cold and abusive towards her, her sister and her mother.

After noticing this for a few months and one day seeing MJ with a black eye,  Peter would dress up as Spiderman, hang Mr. Watson upside down in his garage and threaten him.

Solving MJ's home life problems. He would say It's spider-man, but she would suspect it was him.

Now that's Peter's home life stuff.

Lets move onto his high school life.

He is working as a freelance photographer for the Bugle. We would see the traditional Bugle crew.

Betty, Robbie and Hoffman

And ofc.

 

The one.

 

The only.

 

J. JONAH JAMESON!!!!

 

Anyways.

Jameson would be focused on Defaming Spider-man, due to the very violent vigilante beginnings the wall crawler had. Saying that all he needs is one more violent act from Spidey to completely turn the public Against him. Which is not true at all but That's what Jameson thinks.

Peter is working at the daily bugle, and through it he would learn about Conner's release.

And this would be the inciting incident in him helping Curt recover and clean his record.

Peter and Curt would reform their

mentor-student relationship a little from the first movie.

Peter would learn more about the

cross-species tests Curt and Richard were doing.

Curt would theorize that somehow Richard was able to synthesize the Spider dna to not affect the host's dna.

And Oscorp wasn't ever able to properly recreate the spider serum.

Because the spiders that bit Peter DID affect his dna.

Curt would think about working on the Lizard serum again.

But Peter would talk him out of it.

Saying that if he becomes the Lizard again, this time he would be put behind bars for good.

So Conners promises him that he would not work on the serum. But secretly he would still do it, because of the constant voices in his head.

 

Now.

 

No good Spider-man story is complete without Spider-man stuffs. So here is what I came up with. Like I said Spidey is much more liked by the citizens now. Even the Police accept his help from time to time. And he has taken on a lot of criminals at this point in his career. Criminals and Mobsters are slowly phasing out and Costumed villains are popping up more. Small cameos from villains like the Shocker, The Enforcers and Pre-Blue form Electro, the look he had in the ultimate comics before his main one. The entire genre of villains are changing. Trying to keep up with Spider-man.

And through this turning of the tides.

Hammerhead, a crime boss, would employ the help of Oscorp to help take down Spider-man. In return the mob families would pay for Oscorp's weapon manufacturings. And THIS is how Oscorp would create weird ass villain suits. Instead of them just being in their basement.

Yeah I'm taking this from Spectacular Spider-man but every movie has taken stuffs from the show.

 

And now.

 

The real meat of the movie.

 

The main theme, Revenge.

 

Gwen wanting revenge on Conners for killing her dad.

 

The Main villain wanting revenge on Spider-man.

 

And Peter wanting revenge on the main villain.

 

Because during a high-speed chase,

He comes across the man who killed his uncle. It ends up to a point that the guy is dangling from a bridge, trying to get back up. Peter has the choice to save him.

But he hesitates. His desire for revenge overwhelming him. And he lets the guy fall to his "death".

Jonah uses this incident to paint

Spider-man as a MENACE TO NEW YORK.

And Peter begins to wonder whether what he did was right.

Of course, It would be revealed his uncle's killer survived the fall.

And is paralysed.

Wanting revenge against Spider-man.

He is approached in the hospital.

By THE GOAT IRFAAN KHAN.

 

Reprising his role from the previous movie as Ranjit Ratha. Ratha proposes a deal to the guy. Telling him that Oscorp would help him recover. If he kills Spiderman.

The guy accepts. Ratha Asks him for his name.

And he says "Mac Gargan".

Mac Gargan is Uncle Ben's killer.

 

So Gargan is taken to oscorp as a test subject. And the scientists inject him with the spider venom from the spiders that they had at oscorp in the first movie. But it doesn’t work properly. His body is resistant to it. He gets super strength. But he becomes very aggressive. And he grows fangs. So not a huge mutation. So the scientists decide to stick him inside an experimental suit to help him heal and be able to walk. Which becomes his Scorpion suit.

The Oscorp chucklefucks attach a tail at the back which he can control with his muscle movements. They do this so that, if there are sightings of him people would think it is the Lizard and put the blame on him.

Again, since I'm still holding onto some of the grounded aspects of Tasm 1, i gave a logical reason as to why he has that suit and why it has a tail. So like the first movie there would be sightings of a mysterious green creature roaming the streets of new york, causing trouble. So like the first movie there would be sightings of a mysterious green creature roaming the streets of new york, causing trouble. Everyone assumes it has to be the Lizard, because of how it looks. Peter also has suspicions, but realises it isn't the Doc. So he goes out to investigate. And comes face to face with Gargan causing a rampage near the subway. They begin fighting inside the subway station. Eventually ending up on a train. It can be a pretty fun chase/fight scene. Plus a nice callback to Raimi's Spider-Man 2.

 

Peter doesn’t realise this is Gargan. Because he thinks Gargan is dead.

Scorpion proves to be a dangerous adversary. He doesn’t have his stinger yet so he uses his tail like a club, beating Peter up. He almost manages to strangle Peter to death.

But he Webs Scorpion up to the ceiling and escapes.

He is pretty banged up from his fight with Scorpion, and swings back home dizzily.

Collapsing in front of his bedroom window.

Well, As it turns out.

It wasn't his bedroom window.

But he doesn't need to know about that yet. He wakes up later to find himself in bed, with different clothes on.

Aunt May asks him why he's so bruised

To which Peter says That he fell down the stairs at the Bugle.

Aunt May asks if he got ran over by a truck as well.

She leaves his room while saying MJ

dropped by and returned his backpack which he forgot at school. Peter wonders where his suit is, only to find it tucked away neatly in his backpack. He suspects MJ might know who he is, but since she doesn't mention anything he thinks maybe she doesn't. We would follow Gwen a little bit as well, delving into her family life, her struggles with her anger, she is alot more prone to anger in this story. She sees some shady activity at Oscorp during work. And notices Gargan entering Ratha's office. She investigates on her own for awhile.

Learning about the shady activities Ratha is doing, his dealings with mobsters like Hammerhead and Both parties employing

Gargan to take out Spider-man.

She would gather all of this evidence.

Before Scorpion almost catches her.

Leading to a tense chase where she barely escapes him by hiding inside the air ducts.

She would immediately go to Peter to warn him about all of this.

This would be the scene where the two would finally let loose on their emotions.

With Gwen breaking down, crying in his arms. She had been repressing her emotions ever since George died.

Peter would also finally let her be close to him.

Showing that he still has feelings for her.

The two decide to keep their complicated relationship aside, and focus on exposing the shady stuff Oscorp is doing.

 

Meanwhile Scorpion is becoming more and more aggressive. Getting impatient. Wanting to kill Spider-man. While Ratha and his scientists want to run tests on him to see what kind of changes the spider serum is causing in him.

Coming to the conclusion that unlike Peter, Gargan is a pretty shit host. Causing the serum to not properly work, giving him lesser versions of Peter's powers and fangs.

Gargan becomes extremely frustrated. He is beyond reasoning. Ratha wants to pull the plug. Gargan is very civil about this.

And stabs Ratha through the back with his tail.

 

Politely of course.

 

So with him gone, Gargan decides to find a different way to get stronger than Spider-man. And he pays Conners a visit. Hurting his wife and kid and threatening him into making a better serum for him. Conners is forced to work for him, as he and his family are taken captive by the Scorpion. Peter would find the Conners home in shambles. Realising Gargan might be behind this, He suits up and decides to investigate. Gwen helps him out, by creating special web cartridges that explode when thrown at something.

A prototype web bomb.

He finds the Conners and Scorpion in the sewer lab The Lizard had in the first movie.

Where he is making stronger spider serum for the scorpion. Curt injects it into Gargan.

 

The mutation, of course, goes horribly wrong. Which would cause Gargan to develop actual pincers, and even have venom. His body becomes so abnormal that he fuses with his suit permanently.

He has absolutely no problem with becoming a genetic abomination and a mockery of nature. Conners, on the other hand, is horrified by the mutation. Probably praying to god Peter didn’t end up looking like a giant Spider.........man.

Peter arrives just in time to protect Curt and his family as he has round two with Scorpion.

Now knowing it is Gargan, He doesn't quip or joke like he did in their first fight.

He is silent and doesn't hold his punches.

Scorpion is having fun though.

Even mocking How much weaker Peter is now. Scorpion's stinger ends up severely injuring Conners' wife.

This forces Peter to snap out of his revenge quest and he runs out of the sewers with the Conners.

However, Mac Gargan was able to see Peter's face before he fled.

Peter gets the Conners to safety, with Curt's wife being put in the icu.

Peter feels responsible for letting things get this far. Wondering if avenging Uncle Ben has blinded him so much.

Curt feels regretful for getting his Family into this mess, and angry at Gargan.

So while no one was looking, Curt went back to the Sewer lab. And began remaking his Lizard Serum.

Meanwhile, Peter is contemplating what to do next. He knows he has to face Scorpion again. And wants to be prepared. His suit would be pretty damaged by this point. With him having to wear a utility belt to hide the tears near his torso.

And suit is falling apart in real time.

And the fabric he has ordered is still two days away from delivery.

Meaning he has to rely on this suit.

The story had been taking place across months.

And it is prom night in a few days.

He doesn't want to go to it, but is forced by May to go.

He wanted to ask Gwen out, but decides not to.

In fact he is not interested in going to prom at all at a critical time like this.

And that is when Aunt May Gets him a date.

 

MJ.

 

Recreating that iconic panel where MJ was first introduced to the readers.

Of course, after seeing MJ dressed up for prom. He decides to agree to go with her. Unbeknownst to him, Gargan had followed him home.

And now knew who he was.

Meanwhile Gwen, visited the Conners at the Hospital. Curt is shocked to see her there. Especially since he knew she hated him. Gwen would admit that she can't let go of how she feels, but she came here anyway to see if they are Alright. She was his student after all.

Conners is moved by this.

Making him sad for what he is planning to do.

Now onto the finale.

Peter decides to go to Prom while wearing his Spider-man suit underneath his prom night suit.

Gwen visits his house while he was about to leave. She sees how handsome he looks and seems a bit jealous MJ was taking him out instead. But she denies being jealous. Peter leaves, May invites her inside for tea and gossip. We can have a nice conversation between May and Gwen here. May tells her a story of how Ben was almost asked out by this other girl at their college, before May swooped in and asked him out first.

Basically telling Gwen to not wait around.

If she wants to get back together with Peter, she should say it to him while she still can. Gwen was about to leave, But May tells her to wait. Saying that she has something special for Gwen.

While at School, Peter is trying to enjoy

himself. Having fun with MJ, actually enjoying her company.

Even Flash is being a fun guy to hang around.

And while the three are having fun and Peter is finally relaxed......

 

Something's wrong.

 

He pushes Flash away while diving to the ground while holding MJ in his arms. A giant tail erupts from the ground, stabbing the spot he was standing in. From beneath the floor, Scorpion emerges Smiling the moment he sees Peter.

We can have a funny gag here where the Librarian from the first movie sees this and decides to just leave the place.

Everyone scatters.

Scorpion goes to attack MJ.

Flash gets in the way and gets a few good punches in before being swatted away by his tail.

Not wanting to put anyone in danger,

Peter directs Gargan's attention onto him and runs into the hallways to get him away from everyone else.

He puts his mask on and the final battle begins.

Scorpion's mutation has progressed.

With him having an Actual tail underneath his mechanical one.

Twin stingers.

He has fun attacking Peter, overpowering him a lot.

But Peter is fast, calculating.

He begins to think how he can take Gargan out since his mutation is progressing further, or worsening. However you want to put it.

While this was happening, Oscorp is attacked by a mysterious figure Who destroys its labs. Specifically the genetically altered spiders. Destroying and burning all of the research and test subjects before escaping.

Back with Peter, His suit is tearing up badly. His gloves have been torn to shreds.

His mask is falling apart.

He is barely able to keep up with the ever evolving Scorpion.

Scorpion pins him to the wall.

His pincers holding both sides of Peter's head.

As he began crushing his skull,

While gleefully enjoying the pain he was causing him.

 

THUNK

 

He is violently struck on the head with a fire extinguisher.

Letting go of Peter.

It was Gwen.

Before Gargan could react she sprayed him in the face with the extinguisher, Suffocating him.

Peter webbed up his fists and uppercutted him into the floor above them.

Peter and Gwen have a fun argument where he is grateful that she saved him, confused on how she even got here and baffled on why she involved herself in the fight. She basically tells him that she will help him take Gargan down, end of story.

Peter begrudgingly accepts her help.

The two come up with the plan to cause Mac's suit to cripple his body, so that the mutation might stop.

She leaves to set the plan into motion While Peter fights with the Scorpion again.

The fight stretches on. The students cheer Spidey as he battles Scorpion.

Taking the fight to the roof.

A lot of fun and creative attacks can be used here.

Since both have relatively similar powers. And Scorpion is becoming more and more unhinged.

Gwen is at the water tank.

Carrying a lot of salt with her.

She begins pouring all of it in the water.

Mixing it in. While Peter is dragging the fight out, Angering Scorpion more and more. Before finally luring him near the fire hose. Gwen was standing above them, holding an immersion rod.

Peter blasts Scorpion with Water While Gwen drops the rod into the stream.

The salt water mixed with the immersion rod electrocutes Scorpion.

Causing his suit to short circuit.

He falls to the ground.

Defeated.

Gwen and Peter celebrate, with the two kissing each other in the heat of the moment. They get a little awkward since they haven't kissed since Tasm.

However, this HOE Gargan gets back up again.

Laughing manically.

He wasn't affected by the electricity at all.

Due to the protective shell he has now developed.

 

He grabs Peter with his tail, choking him with it.

Gwen tries to Help but Gargan cuts her shoulder. Grabbing her neck with his pincer.

He has a history of....being a pretty horrendous person, especially towards women. So this is referencing that.

He grins while crushing her neck.

Peter taps into his inner rage.

Biting into Scorpion's tail, breaking the hard shell.

This causes him to drop Gwen, who falls to the floor unconscious.

Peter rips Gargan's twin tails off, and begins hitting him with it.

Mac manages to headbutt him. Pinning Peter to the ground.

Preparing to finish him off.

When a long, slender tail wraps around his neck. Pulling him away from Peter.

 

It’s him. The Lizard.

 

Peter is taken aback at seeing him there. Instead of attacking or killing Mac tho, he instead holds a large syringe in his hand.

Conners injects Gargan with something, Which causes him to convulse.

Peter watches as Gargan's mutation reverses in real time.

His pincers shedding.

His body returning to normal.

Conners tosses him aside, Causing Gargan to dangle from the roof.

Peter looks at him.

Once again faced with a similar situation as he was earlier in the story.

He remembers Ben.

His words to Peter.

And Peter Steps towards Gargan.

Grabbing his hand.

And pulling him back up on the roof.

He's out of Commission for now.

Peter then looks at the Lizard.

Facing him for the first time since two years ago.

He pleads with Conners.

Telling him to listen to him.

To not relapse again.

He prepares for the worst, ready to fight Conners.

The Lizard begins to step towards him.

His right arm reaching out.

But it begins to crumble.

Shocking both Peter and the Lizard.

He begins to transform back into Curt Conners, lying down on the floor. Peter rushes to his side.

He asks why Conners did this, became the lizard again.

Conners explains he suspected that Gargan must've gotten the same venom from the spiders that gave Peter his powers.

Meaning Oscorp would try to weaponize it, seeing It's potential.

So Curt remade the Lizard serum, transforming into the Lizard again and went to destroy their lab.

Burning all of their research And killing off the mutated spiders.

Completely destroying their chances at recreating Richard's research. He then came here to take care of Gargan.

Using an antidote to control his rapid mutation. Peter asks why did he take such a risk. Conners said that it was a calculated one. And he knew the Lizard would do what Conners wanted, as long as he let him out. But he made sure he wouldn't hurt anyone. Which is why he purposefully made a weaker version of the Lizard Serum.

Which wore off right now.

Conners then smiles, telling Peter

Spider-man has done his job. Now Peter Parker needs to do his.

Peter nods.

As the police arrive at Midtown high, Peter Webs Conners down on the streets. Letting him escape the scene.

Downstairs the paramedics are checking up on everyone.

Gwen has a bandaged shoulder.

Flash has an ice pack to his face.

MJ only has a few scratches thanks to Peter saving her.

Peter has a sprained ankle, bruised eye, a split lip and possibly a lot of other broken bones.

Flash asks him how he managed to escape the Scorpion.

Peter says Spider-man saved him.

The four of them watch as Gargan is

wheeled out while handcuffed to a stretcher. Looking at Peter, as he is loaded up in an ambulance.

Gwen disappears for a bit.

Making everyone wonder where she went.

Prom is officially ruined.

With all of the students lamenting that fact.

 

And then……music begins playing on the loudspeakers.

“Raindrops keep Falling on my head.”

The music is being played by the Librarian. Basically telling the kids to enjoy the night, ignoring the 6 feet tall Scorpion man that just attacked their school for some reason.

Peter watches the other students dance.

Then he sees someone approach him.

An old emerald dress that looks stunning on her.

He recognises it as Aunt May's dress, the one Uncle Ben bought her for their first anniversary.

She looks at him expectantly, a little

nervous.

Peter looks at MJ.

Silently asking for permission.

She smiles and says "Go get her Tiger."

Peter takes Gwen's hand.

As they began slow dancing to the music.

Flash watches this occur, grinning like an idiot.

MJ asks him if he is going to leave her hanging tonight.

So the two begin dancing as well.

Peter and Gwen look at each other.

As they share a kiss.

MJ watches them.

Hinting that she has feelings for Peter. But she still feels happy for him.

The Next day The Daily Bugle prints a new story.

 

“MASKED MENACE CAUGHT AT LAST! SCORPION IN CAHOOTS WITH SPIDER-MAN?!”

 

Peter throws the paper away the moment he sees it, shaking his head in amusement.

Thanks to Gwen’s evidence. And Peter’s story. The Lizard’s attack on the lab gets pinned on Scorpion. Along with all the crimes Gargan committed, including murdering Ratha. He is sent to prison.

The Conners are leaving their house, Curt's Wife now recovering from her injuries.

Curt and Her have rekindled their

relationship.

Hoping to renew their vows.

Peter comes to see the three off.

Curt and Him share a parting conversation.

With Curt thanking Peter for giving him a second chance and believing in him

Peter hugs him.

An emotional farewell between the two.

Before leaving, Curt hands him a sketch.

Telling him that he may not be a wardrobe designer, but he came up with some ideas that might help Peter.

Peter watches them leave.

As he goes about his day.

Visiting the bugle.

Submitting some photos he took,

With Jonah Commenting "That Wall Crawling Menace looks like a beggar these days! The Power of the Press Triumphs as always."

Peter doesn't really pay attention.

He goes to school.

Hangs out with his friends.

Goes home, Where he finds Gwen waiting for him in his room.

(You know where this is going)

The two cuddle on the bed, as Peter

laments about his destroyed suit.

Gwen tells him that Maybe he should make a new one.

But go for a different look this time.

Peter nods, his gaze falling on the sketch Conners gave him.

He opens it up.

It has detailed diagrams for better web-shooters and a more comfortable and durable suit.

 

A robbery takes place some time in the future.

Being carried out by Electro and

Rhino(wearing a cheaper armour)

They are suddenly webbed up and cocooned to the wall.

 

A man webs down the ceiling, holding a camera.

"Say Cheese Boys!"

Unveiling a more classic Spider-man suit.

Similar to Tasm 2, but with mirrored lenses. Finishing the movie off with a mandatory swinging sequence, now in the day time.

 

The End.

 


r/SUMC 4d ago

Spider-Man Villains and Plotlines I want to see post Brand New Day

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1. Venom: We must include Venom, ideally with Eddie as the host. My idea for Eddie’s introduction is that he’s actually Peter’s childhood friend, and the spell wiped his memories. Peter could find a photo of their parents together, leading to a heartfelt reconnection. Venom would pose a significant psychological threat to Peter; heck, adapt that arc of kidnapping him to a deserted island to kill him, just to emphasize his menace.

 

2. Jackal: There’s potential for a richer portrayal of Jackal. He could become a personal rival to Peter, much like Green Goblin did, and can kickstart the Clone Saga. Making Peter doubt his identity as a clone for part of the movie could be a good plot if done right, alongside introducing a younger clone for him to mentor, since Peter has no one at the moment to protect and care for in order to conceal his identity.

 

3. Hobgoblin (Rodrick Kingsley/Phil Urich): Hobgoblin should definitely be included. The mystery plot could be compelling, but we could avoid using Ned as a decoy. Instead, we could raise the stakes by killing him off. After Rodrick’s downfall, we could have Phil Urich take over and transform into a version of Demogoblin, keeping it grounded without the mystical elements.

 

4. Mr. Negative: I really like the portrayal of Mr. Negative from the PS4 game, so that.

  • Additional Unadapted Storylines: Since "Brand New Day" introduced Peter's Spider-Half, I want to adapt the storyline "Changes," mixing it with elements from "Spider-Island" and "The Other." Adriana could serve as the villain, which blends perfectly with my idea to bring in Jackal.
  • I want to change Scorpion's character. In my plot, he initially hosts Venom before it leaves him for Peter and then bonds with Eddie. Peter defeats Eddie, causing his death. Unbeknownst to him, leftover traces of Venom in Scorpion are transformed into Anti-Venom by Mr. Negative's abilities, turning Scorpion into an Anti-Venomized version of himself.
  • Lastly, I envision a scene where Peter encounters his future self, an adaptation of "Happy Birthday," influencing his choices to avoid that fate. Might be fanfictiony, but imagine LS Spidey with a scar on his left eye. Peter sees it and later gets it from Venom.
  • Adapted Storylines: I want to include Gwen Stacy. I believe Emma Stone portrays the best version, but since we aren’t reintroducing old villains, we need a way to play with the idea of Peter wanting to change her fate with the knowledge from other Spider-Men. After dealing with heartbreak from MJ's rejection, he finds Gwen, experiencing inner conflict about pursuing a relationship with her. Ultimately, he overcomes his hesitation, but when she nearly faces death, Peter realizes he must let her go putting him through emotional turmoil before MJ or another love interest becomes his endgame.

Let me know your thoughts below!!


r/SUMC 4d ago

SSU Sinister Six vs. The King in Black Story Treatment (SSU Crossover Pitch)

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So I know this franchise is technically dead, but as someone who didn't hate the six spin-offs that were made, I need to scratch this itch/exorcize this demon/get it out of my system, & pitch this crossover that Sony was trying to build towards, but clearly had no idea how. Here goes (Names & Key Terms are all in caps to imitate screenplay/treatment style):

Vulture & Morbius recruit Dmitri Kravinoff/CHAMELEON into their burgeoning team of misfits, determined to find & kill this universe's SPIDER-MAN before he becomes a threat to their endeavors. Unbeknownst to them, Sergei Kravinoff/KRAVEN THE HUNTER is coming to New York to find the man responsible for turning his brother into a monster. He at first believes it's MORBIUS. Before he arrives in NY though, CALYPSO informs him of a vision she had: a vast, ashen landscape, littered with the corpses of aliens, which she tells him "look like that Venom thing that showed up in San Francisco a year ago."

Meanwhile, AGONY/DR. TEDDY PAYNE tracks down EDDIE BROCK, who's now working as a reporter in New York again. She reveals that VENOM still lives on through a piece of the symbiote that bonded with a cockroach she found in the ruins of Area 51. Once Eddie & Venom reunite, Agony/Payne shares her suspicions that the IMPERIUM PROGRAM are looking to once again "Reconstitute the Six", though instead of a team of soldiers like in Venom 3, they want to recruit "enhanced" individuals to fight against the still looming threat of KNULL.

Elsewhere, Vulture, Chameleon, & Morbius run afoul of the SPIDER-WOMEN, who are protecting the young PETER PARKER of that universe because MADAME WEB has forseen he's in danger from the forming team of outcasts. Morbius is broken off from the group when Kraven intercepts the fight. After a one on one battle, Morbius tells Kraven that he's not the one he wants, & that he's after Michael's mentor from Horizon Labs: MILES WARREN.

Warren has made contact with Knull, & is acting as his agent on Earth. Warren also was responsible for how the Spider-Women got their powers (more on that in a sec), & he wants to infect New York with a plague of hybrid spider-symbiotes, as the two entities combined are, theoretically, the "perfect" lifeforms.

Madame Web stops everyone from fighting, & they meet up back at the Spider-Women's HQ, where she tells Vulture that this universe's Spider-Man is the least of their problems, as she informs them of the threat posed by Warren.

As this is going on, Brock & Payne are met by DR. DAN LEWIS, who has been a government agent this entire time, the founder of Imperium. Dan apologizes to both of them for General Strickland going rogue & taking matters into his own hands during the events of Venom 3. Dan also reveals that Madame Web & her "WEB WARRIORS" are Imperium agents, created whilst Miles Warren was consulting with Imperium on a means of tracking down & combating symbiotes. Dan wants the both of them to rendezvous with the Web Warriors before they determine their next course of action.

Venom & Agony arrive at the Spider-Women's HQ, but as they do, Chameleon reveals himself as the mole for Warren, with Warren having given Chameleon the means to separate the CARNAGE symbiote from inside Venom, which reconstitutes CLETUS KASADY as well, possible thanks to Venom eating Cletus's brain, & they crash the meeting together, overpowering everyone. Venom & Agony manage to drive back Carnage, who flees with Chameleon, but not before dealing a mortal blow to Dr. Payne, incinerating her completely, & leaving the Agony symbiote without a host.

Venom lets the Agony symbiote merge with him for the time being, but this keeps Eddie & Venom from bonding for said time as well, as the Agony symbiote is not compatible with Eddie, & thus effects Venom's ability to bond with him. With Cletus/Carnage back, this is how Knull finds another codex from which he can free himself from Klyntar.

Everyone regroups at Imperium's NY HQ, & Dan informs them of his proposal. He'd been monitoring more than just Eddie & the now deceased Dr. Payne, as once Madame Web told him of her precognitive visions, he knew the would-be "SPIDER SLAYERS" might be useful to the coming threat of Knull. He proposes that Vulture, Morbius, Kraven, & the three Spider-Women become a "SINISTER SIX" to counter Knull & his allies. In return, Dan offers to find a cure & pardon for Morbius, a way home for Vulture, as well as Kraven getting his brother back.

Dan also proposes that they use the cloning technology developed by Warren for Imperium to replicate the Venom & Agony symbiotes just enough to produce additional symbiotes for the Six. Julia becomes the host of the first clone of Agony, SCREAM/MISERY (combo of the two symbiotes from the comics). Vulture becomes RAPTOR, who resembles the Hybrid symbiote from the comics. Anya becomes MAYHEM. Morbius becomes RAZE. Mattie becomes MANIA. Kraven becomes RASCAL (Red & White coloration). And Madame Web herself becomes the new host of Agony, as Venom reunites with Eddie, becoming the team's leaders.

As they race towards the finale, Warren reveals the ace up his sleeve, not only turning himself into the monstrous JACKAL, but revealing Morbius's love MARTINE as another Living Vampire, as Knull descends upon Earth. But that's not all...the Spider-Women are "Manchurian Candidates" that Jackal turns against the others, & their symbiotes are prophesied reincarnations of Knull's first symbiotes, the Symbiote Sisters.

The unlikely heroes win the day, but not without great cost. Dmitri refuses Kraven. Vulture ultimately sacrifices himself over the course of battle, & makes peace with it because he feels he has shamed his family back home. Morbius must kill Martine. Madame Web meets her end. But, the Spider-Women are restored following the defeat of Jackal, & their symbiotes destroyed. Julia becomes the new Madame Web, & third host of Agony, a partner to Venom, the LETHAL PROTECTOR, & future mentors of their universe's Spider-Man.

Note: Venom defeating Knull will be how he acquires the iconic CHEST SYMBOL, considering in recent comics this was meant to signify the symbiote dragon, instead of a spider like originally thought. Though since we're tying together symbiotes & spiders as the perfect union of symbiosis, this original intent can still be retained.

Casting suggestion for Dr. Miles Warren/the Jackal: Jeremy Irons.


r/SUMC 4d ago

Discussion MJ is his true love in the MCU, seriously??? Discussion

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Noticed this while watching Brand New Day. Tom's spiderman liked her in homecoming, then they got together in far from home and then no way home happened where she forgot about him. The timeline of them getting together and her forgetting about him is just a few weeks.

Then, in brand new day he is in love with her for 4 years before the events of the story happen.

He dated somebody for a few weeks and then stayed in love for 4 years. Is that not insane to anybody else or am I missing something here????


r/SUMC 5d ago

Morbius Morbius is a far deeper character than one may assume.

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I've been doing some thinking about Morbius and his character, and I slowly realized that he's a lot deeper than how most people would assume. Not by alot, but he still has some depth.

The two things I want to focus on is his lack of self-worth, and his survivor's guilt.

Starting with the former, Morbius has a clear lack of self-worth for himself, as shown in two aspects. The first is in his rejection of the Nobel prize, he rejected it because to him, the artificial blood was only a temporary solution rather than a permanent one to the condition he and many others have.

He clearly sees little value in how he handles finding the cure as he ultimately has himself be the first and only human test subject, which works but at a horrible cost.

One could even come to the conclusion that the antibody meant for Milo and himself having the end result be their deaths could also be a sign of lacking self-worth. Him throwing his life away via this antibody is in a way, an admission to his failure not just to his friend and the innocent people that died due to this cure, but to the many people who have the same condition Michael has.

Next is his survivor's guilt, which is definitely apparent given how out of his found family, he's the sole survivor, along with being partially responsible for the deaths of innocent people. It's also highly likely that Martine was killed (or more accurately, put out of her misery) by Michael, considering he still had one antibody left by the end of the film.

With him (likely) being the last living vampire, he was all alone with blood and failure to show for it. In fact, I'll go even further with the survivor's guilt by saying that it played a part (potentially) in him joining Vulture's team.

It seems unlikely at first, given how poorly written and made the post credit scene is. However, if you go back and listen to what Vulture says, it becomes far more plausible. He states that he has read up about him, meaning he's likely heard about his rejection of the Nobel prize. This would've likely hinted him on his lacking self-worth and how hard he is on himself. It's most clear that he knows about this and exploits it with his infamous line, "I'm still trying to figure this place out, but I think a bunch of guys like us should team up. Could do some good.". If we were to take it literally, he's implying that they could do acts of good (as he builds up to the two or eventual sinister six taking on that universe's Spider-Man) as a way to offer a hopeful olive branch to Michael. And his reply of, "Intriguing" while ambiguous, it could imply that his manipulation worked.

What I hope people gain from this post is that we realize that despite how poor Morbius as a film is, there are some nuances at least when it comes to Morbius himself.

What do you think of this reading of the character?


r/SUMC 6d ago

Spider-Man What did everyone think about the TASM 1 Suit?

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r/SUMC 6d ago

Spider-Man People are talking about Gwen, wanting a clone of her to make Andrew Peter happy, when he still has his Aunt May. How selfish of them! I need one where Peter goes crazy because his aunt is in danger.

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r/SUMC 7d ago

Spider-Man What I Liked About Her Arc

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I thought Brand New Day handled her character in an interesting way, especially in how the movie gradually reveals the reasons behind her actions.

What stood out to me was the contrast between her early behavior and the explanation we eventually get. She starts out as someone who is willing to manipulate Peter, put Bruce Banner in danger, and make some extremely consequential choices involving innocent people. Her attitude toward Frank Castle also gives us a pretty cold impression of her.

Then the movie reveals that she is herself a victim of a government organization that tortured and killed her sister. I liked that this gave her actions additional context rather than presenting her as simply evil.

The part I found most interesting was her relationship with Peter. Her manipulation of him is obviously meant to serve her larger objective, but it also raises an interesting question about how far she is willing to go to accomplish what she believes is necessary.

I think that contrast makes her one of the more complicated characters in the movie. She does some genuinely awful things, but the film also gives us reasons to understand where she is coming from. I appreciated that the movie left room for that moral ambiguity rather than making her completely heroic or completely villainous.

Just kidding! None of it is true. Now, I won't deny that Spider-Man Brand New Day was a good movie, but we as a society need to accept the fact that Jean Grey is evil, and here's why:

  1. Acts of terrorism: Committed multiple terrorist acts with zero regard for human safety.
  2. Sadistic demeanor: Displayed a sniveling, sadistic attitude throughout the entire film.
  3. Direct harm to civilians: Directly killed at least a few innocent bystanders.
  4. Sexual assault and manipulation: Sexually assaulted Peter while manipulating and toying with his emotions.
  5. Death threats: Threatened to murder an innocent young woman.
  6. Forced transformation: Endangered Bruce Banner and forced him to turn into the Hulk against his will.
  7. Lack of empathy: Looked at Frank Castle's traumatic experiences and scoffed them off with "this guy has issues."
  8. Mass endangerment: Was willing to doom an entire city's population to being frozen in time while remaining fully conscious of what was happening to them.

And the movie tries to hide her evilness by just magically changing her personality at the halfway point.

"But she's a victim of a government organization that tortured and killed her sister."

Okay, and why did sexually assaulting Peter and emotionally abusing him with a sadistic look on her face have to be part of her plan?

And thank you, Diaz for the screenshots of the film and inspiration to make this post.


r/SUMC 7d ago

Discussion Two adapted villains I want to see return in future MCU Spider-Man films.

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