r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 21h ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø Two months to go...
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u/Tensionheadache11 21h ago
Iām truly starting to think that past 10 yrs has been one long social experiment to see how much dumbasses can be manipulated and itās been terrifyingly eye opening
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u/King-1911 19h ago
I wouldnāt call it a social experiment, rather, we underestimated how many low iQ people are in USA
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u/OneOfAKind2 13h ago
Not sure IQ has much to do with it, but education certainly does. You can have a normal or high IQ and still be ignorant and/or brainwashed. It's why red states defund education - to keep the populace 'dumb'.
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u/LoAndBehoId 20h ago
Almost like we are in a simulation. People in a far more cogent reality are watching in horror.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 17h ago
In The Matix change was triggered with a pill choice. In the 50's America saw it change with a choice of bus seat and a boycott. In the 70's America saw change by carpooling and buying smaller vehicles.
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u/4sOfCors 17h ago
as a professional, I am so careful to try and think before I speak, and be educated on what I say. Turns out, just being confident will have half the room thinking you're a god.
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u/Mediocre-Catch9580 21h ago
Not āIFā. Ā He will lose the house in November. Ā And Iran is watchingĀ
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u/Sigvarr 20h ago
Eh there are still a few extreme scenarios that it doesn't flip. For example, martial law, which opens up further the option of blocking the election or/and it's results. I feel this is more likely to happen than anyone wants to admit. We should be prepared
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u/Bonti_GB 20h ago
Well, because they know this, expect them to cheat.
Just like the recent USPS whistleblower.
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u/Internal-Plantain-56 21h ago
Thereās enough aipac dems in the house to keep supporting him.
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u/CerifiedHuman0001 20h ago
AIPAC and Israelās death grip on the US is the next thing we need to deal with after getting orange man out. The mere idea of a military merger being floated around is a red flag the size of a fucking continent.
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u/Borinar 20h ago
Need to prosecute the epstein listers.
And ban then from political office, legal work and lobbying.
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u/Internal-Plantain-56 19h ago
Yeah Iām sure the same guys who hired Merrick garland are gonna get right on that.
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u/Artisanalpoppies 19h ago
Purging the government of Russian infiltrators is more important than Israel.
Trump is clearly a Russian asset, and has been for 10 yrs at least. Pretty sure there's actual evidence Russia meddled in the 2016 election. And a lot of policy choices have benefitted Russian interests.
Trump will leave behind a mess, but the US needs an Obama to reinstall order and properly investigate Trump and his government, especially 6th Jan- then punish them accordingly.
The corruption in the US government is blatantly obvious and internationally damaging.
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u/Downtherabbithole-14 20h ago
...I'm a pesimist...I'm panicking they will somehow pull something out of the air and rig it.
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u/Bread_Godd 17h ago
The somehow is the voting machines don't log events so if they are tampered with there is zero record of tampering.
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u/Fire-ball87 18h ago
He cheated in 24 with musk.
You really think he will lose? There have been rollbacks in voting security not reinforcements.
I have zero hope left. Everyone is apathetic and I'm just tired. 10 years nonstop destruction from the right has just worn me out.
Politicians on the left won't do anything. They're more ineffective than the actual good place people from "The Good Place".
They care more about decorum than real action.
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u/No_Language5719 20h ago
I'm sure the world is watching us try to sustain an unwinnable war with very few effective strategies. Even their neighbors didn't really want this fight, despite their disdain for the regine, so why we followed Isreal into it baffles me.
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u/CilleTheExterminator 15h ago
It's crazy how confident you Americans are. You claim that he rigged the 2024 election so why would he not EASILY be able to rig this midterm since he is the president with full support behind him?
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u/DominoEffect1129 21h ago
The damage this man has caused will never be fixed. Trump will eventually go away but the MAGA ideology will live on long after heās gone. What comes after him may be even worse.
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u/LoAndBehoId 20h ago
Imagine an intelligent person with the same motivations. We are relatively fortunate.
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u/Sorry_Im_Trying 20h ago
Ending his presidency isn't enough. I want him in jail. I want his family in jail. I want all the money they stole back in the hands of the people. I want his administration in jail. I want their stolen money returned. I want the corporations that supported him and his administration to be reviewed and audited and all the money they've stolen returned.
I want new laws to ensure this fuckery never has an opportunity to happen again.
I want textbooks back in the schools with chapters on why this was all a very bad thing.
I want mental health professionals to care for any one who is upset that he's in jail, because they need mental health help.
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u/IknowMore420 21h ago
It seems that most people are fine with this guy literally stealing from them. It is so strange how bent out of shape most are about ownership and property rights, but let a guy take all the money they paid in taxes and enrich himself.
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u/Bread_Godd 17h ago
I'd wager half of it is quite literally people being too stupid to understand the differences between a million, a billion, and a trillion.
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u/No-Condition965 20h ago
He is not a rational individual. He has installed his co-conspitritors that follow his orders without question. He has built and funded his own private army ( ICE ) This is not going to be a peaceful transition of power
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u/ReallyUnlikable 21h ago
It's not even just that. It's all the little sycophants, it's Stephen "Hiding in a military base" Miller, it's all the sycophant celebrities that thought getting on the Trump train would help their brand. The house of cards is falling for all of them. Eff around and find out.
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u/StoicJ 20h ago
because Dem leadership is so well known for reversing Republican damage and not just going "ok we aren't going to do any more of that for a little while, OK?"
The only way any of these fantasies of actually holding the trump admin accountable happen is to also vote in new progressive dems. the established members know they dont have to actually do anything so they never will.
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u/OkWillingness2817 20h ago
I donāt understand what difference people think itās going to make.
Heās already ignoring congress and the courts. And nobody is enforcing rulings against him.
He flat-out stated he wonāt respect an outcome that goes against him and he doesāt seem to have any use for congress to begin with.
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u/Samas34 19h ago
I know that he will effectively be a 'lame duck' president if he loses too much in both House and Senate, but would it be enough to actually remove him if he decides to dig in (which we know he will.)
From what I understand of US politics, you need a large number of senators to actually remove a sitting president from office outright.
The likely outcome is he'll lose a large number, get impeached again, but there will be enough hardcore supporters to hold him in office, which will then lead to nothing going through government and eventually a shutdown that will just drag on until 2028.
He will crash the whole country, rather than accept the tide has turned on him.
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u/Charybdis150 18h ago
He wonāt be impeached and removed. The numbers arenāt there in any realistic scenario. However, losing the House and Senate majorities would be a massive blow in many ways, would effectively neuter his remaining two years. Most of the terrible things heās done, from tariffs to picking completely incompetent cabinet members, would not have been possible without a Republican majority appeasing his every tantrum. It would also prevent conservative Supreme Court justices from resigning early so that he could pick new ones, solidifying a conservative majority for a long time. It cannot be overstated how important it is to vote and to get those around you to vote in November.
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u/My_18th_Account 17h ago
Reddit is a bubble...a reminder to please VOTE. I wouldn't be surprised if all the races are tight in November.
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u/EitherChannel4874 20h ago
He's not going anywhere. People really think he'd do all of this just to leave quietly after being voted out in a fair election?
He's shown that the constitution means nothing to him and that no one will challenge him regardless of what he does.
The only way he leaves is in a body bag.
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u/werduvfaith 20h ago
Trump is not up for election this year.
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u/EitherChannel4874 20h ago
And that will stop him how exactly?
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u/SoylentGrunt 20h ago
Well it's the law. DUH!
lots and lots of /s
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u/EitherChannel4874 20h ago
š Ikr
People still believe the democratic system is in play and laws matter.
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u/Well_read_rose 20h ago
Itās like D DAY! Only this time itās E Day !
Get to the polls early days before the interference and tabulation tricks really gets going.
The votes are counted yes, because audits catch those totals but the REAL tricks are in the tabulations, ie, every 5,000 votes segment or 10,000 vote milestones get reached - disfavoring Trump gets discounted or thrown out, and the audits DONāT catch that fuckery.
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u/Ok-Comment8409 20h ago
I donāt think Trump is panicking. He doesnāt seem to care if the Republicans lose in the midterms, which makes sense because heās a narcissist who only cares about himself, and Iām fairly certain he only ran for president again to stay out of jail.
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u/Upper-Psychology-607 20h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/6HKbQhCttVaOalvXiV
They should be cleaning out their desk.
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u/HTX-ByWayOfTheWorld 20h ago
Wonāt happen. Even if democrats have a 90% majority in the house and senate, theyāll bicker amongst each other and not get anything of value accomplished.
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u/Clarknes 19h ago
He needs to lose the Senate too. He is very much weakened if they lose the house, but he can do aot of damage if they don't lose the Senate too.
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u/Grimy-Jack 19h ago
He's already been sowing the seeds to steal the election OR nullify its results. November will be quite telling to modern democracies and likely shape the future of the US as a nation.
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u/Fuzzy_Translator4639 19h ago
If only this could be true.
Rigging the votes, having the USPS interfere illegally, refusal to seat new members, leaving Congress out indefinitely, declaring martial law . . .
There are many ways that he will never give up power. Not until someone is willing to uphold their oath
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u/IS-21 21h ago
Man I canāt wait for all the bluster and bullshit on election night wonder if Mike will try to not swear in people but if they lose the senate oh boy the tweets and bots will be very angry
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u/werduvfaith 20h ago
Johnson's term as Speaker ends at 12 noon on January 3rd. The CLERK seats the new members-elect. Johnson has no say in the matter.
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u/RabbiTheHellcat 20h ago
the amount of politcal bots on reddit is absurd š¤£ like 90% of Frontpage posts are american politics
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u/Aggressive_Plate1652 20h ago
They are hoping that by intimidating people at the polls, stopping mail in voting, etc,...it will make less people vote, we need to prove them wrong. Stay informed, protect your ability to vote like your life depends on it.
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u/Madison5775 20h ago
Why do you think there is such a hurry to finish his bunker? ā¦I mean āballroom?ā Heās gonna go down there and hide out!
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u/Mrtoyhead 20h ago
A MANDATE FROM THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY THE LIKES THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN! VOTE BLUE ! šššššøšššššøšššššø
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u/realdschises 19h ago
please american idiots do the right thing, just once, you have tormented the world and yourself enough...
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u/TheAlmightyScooter 19h ago
If they DONT take the House then they need to do some serious introspection. This admin is a dumpster fire.
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u/Admirable-Eagle-231 19h ago
In 2 months with heavy voter suppression Iām hoping we come out in force anyway. Itās the two following months I worry about..
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u/wolfpowl 18h ago
Oh so theyāre afraid that what they did to Obama for his whole presidency is gonna happen to them? Rules for thee, not for me.
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u/QweenJoleen1983 17h ago
Most of the OBBA changes havenāt even gone into effect! Come Jan 1st itās going to get a WHOLE lot worse. Get out there and vote.
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u/Such-Marionberry2832 16h ago
I would add that please confirm your registration status, vote early in person, and be prepared for a long, long line in election day.
Trump and MAGA have been prepared for the mid-term election in day 1 - or even earlier. And have put lots of barriers in place and would continue to do. They have already dis-registered millions of voters in Texas, removing polling stations, and likely would have ICE at democrat-areas polling stations to make voting waiting time much longer. Mail ballots would likely to be delayed in delivery from USPS and be challanged.
And this would be a long fight - even if MAGA lose the house, Trump would ignore House. Without a super-majority, you can impeach and can't convict him. And Supreme court will continue to give him cover.
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u/LoAndBehoId 20h ago
But we are in a golden age y'all! Dont look at the economic numbers, just believe! /s
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u/werduvfaith 20h ago
As a second term president, Trump is a lame duck after midterms anyway.
Also look for the party to force him out by March once Vance is eligible to serve 10 years.
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u/Salty_Penalty3119 20h ago
Itās already written in the cards. His time destroying this country and making billions for himself are just about over.
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u/Either_Theory_6815 20h ago
No, it won't be effectively over. Another impeachment won't remove him from office as they will never get 67 votes in the Senate. Besides, all another impeachment will do is show that Democrats don't have any ideas other than to get rid of Trump (or at least that is how it will be spun). Legislation will stall, but Trump will issue EO after EO. We have another 2 years of this insanity and even then the shenanigans about a 3rd term will become the main topic. Anything for attention.
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u/Aromatic-Dog-Breath 20h ago
Itās soon to be over anyways. America voted for a lame duck president. Theyāre going to be boosting the next Republican candidates next year anyways. Sucks to be stupid for everyone except the stupid people. They canāt tell the difference.Ā
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u/buttpirate69420666 20h ago
How is his presidency over? You think he needs congress to do any of the things he does? Do you think if he's impeached by congress and the senate he would leave office? Get real people. Trump is here until he decides he's done.
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u/McNednarb 20h ago
He's already up to 277 executive orders even with a Republican majority in the House and Senate. It's been effectively over since January 20th, 2025.
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u/mmatt0904 20h ago
How is his presidency over? Dude has done more things with executive order than anyone else. This congress barely passes anything and was the least productive.
Doesnāt seem like much will change besides investigations.
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u/JarvisMusk 20h ago
Idk why you guys think anything will change.
Besides the republicans have had the majority and have passed absolutely nothing. Theyāve done NOTHING.
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u/M_J_Tank 20h ago
There'll be a rogue Dem (or two) to make sure he gets bailed out... If not, the SC will step in and protect him.
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u/TamalesHarvard 20h ago
He'll attempt to pull a Saddam and have them all publicly executed. I say attempt, because the only saving grace of this administration is how comically incompetent they all are.
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u/Emergency_Salt_2103 20h ago
Vote blue everywhere and anyone. Period. Stop the madness and lies plz.
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u/AmatuerGenius 20h ago
We need to be prepared for the insurrection this time. He did it once shame on him, if He does it again shame on us
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u/OmgHowww 20h ago
Question to everyone reading:
How long can you or do you expect the Iran situation to end if the dems take a majority?
Do any of you expect to have some Dems fall in line when it comes to continuing the Iran conflict in any way, shape, or form or do you expect all funding and military operations to cease soon after (maybe 1-3 months) ?
Genuinely curious how / what your expectations are.
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u/South-Sir-9989 20h ago
Heās gonna try to pull that āfind me 11,000 votesā shit with his Maga governors/legislators
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u/lnTheGrimDarkness 20h ago
Fellas, they're setting up to overthrow the government and make a coup. Trump outright tried to do that once already. It's just that for some reason nobody called it with its name.
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u/TheYellowFringe 20h ago
I honestly don't know what could or would happen.
If he loses the elections than he is basically crippled for the remainder of his time in the office.
If he wins the elections, then he's going to further lose support due to the overwhelmingly negative opinions that the Republicans now have.
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u/Mister_Normal42 20h ago
Heās going to do EVERYTHING he ever accused democrats of doing to stop this from happening.
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u/Wrong_Revolution_679 20h ago
So either he'll basically be able to do nothing for like 2 years or they'll actually impeach him
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u/Ok-Jelly604 20h ago
I donāt think heās that stupid, that somehow this is a surprise. Ā
I actually think he has known all along and had no intention of a long and successful presidency. Ā He wanted to do maximum damage and maximum corruption in as short a time as possible. Ā
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u/successfullynumb 20h ago
Between the redistricting, closing of minority used polling places, mail-in ballot shenanigans, ICE/Troops at polling places to intimidate or stop Democrat voters, and other various forms of bullshit, the Republicans losing the House and Seneate seats are not foregone conclusions. It could very likely end up being a red wave.
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u/57Chevyguy57 20h ago
Oh sureš¤ then once again the demonrats will effectively wreck the country even farther by disallowed the system the ability to actually work togather and save our country. We have bigger fish to fry and this squabbling among our congress not helping anyone
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u/xCyn1cal0wlx 20h ago
The rich and powerful rarely if ever face consequences in this country, Trump is very rich and very powerful. So good luck with that.
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u/Kinggakman 19h ago
Plenty of awful things will continue even with a democrat controlled Congress. Removal from office would be the only thing to stop it and that wonāt be happening.
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u/Sharikacat 19h ago
No, it's not "effectively over." What the hell can Congress do? Send subpoenas that will get ignored? Pass sternly-worded resolutions? Sue? Trump will keep taking wildly insane and illegal actions that, even if SCOTUS agrees that it's illegal, won't be stopped. Lawsuits take time. Money still gets spent, even if it's eventually ruled to be misappropriated. Court orders will get ignored. There is no enforcement mechanism, and anyone that would be in a position to do something will just get fired.
Yes, a strong Democratic victory in November helps a lot in many ways, but it's only good in trying to build momentum for 2028.
The funny thing is that this is all held together by the collective decision that Trump is in charge. Assuming his cabinet weren't sycophants, everyone could just . . . ignore him. The social contract that lets us live as a, broadly speaking, polite society is also the thing that's letting Trump get away with everything.
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u/Breeder-One 19h ago
Everytime for the last 3 years I hear about Democrats winning against Trump I have a little hope, but now I will believe it when I see it, just exhausted to hear or see american news everywhere.
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u/Jaystorm_7 19h ago
Posts like this are delusional. They wonāt remove him. Theyāre all in the same club. Trying to believe either side cares remotely about you or your opinions is naive at best. It isnāt right vs left. Itās those in power against those who have none, and keeping us all distracted is good for business.
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u/ironicmirror 19h ago
Screw that, we want the Senate too.
However, I will bet the farm that Iran will start a huge offensive right before the elections. They want him there.
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u/immaREPORTthat 19h ago
The problem is the democrats are controlled opposition; we need democratic socialists for real progressive change
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u/Calvin_Ball_86 18h ago
This is transparently apathetic language. None of the stuff that's happening would have happened if Dems were in charge. So, you either like what's happening, or your going to support Dems.Ā
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u/RichBrokeRich 19h ago
This is always the case when the opposition takes congress in the midterms, the president becomes lame duck.
However, he's been fighting this his whole term as dems and rinos team up to oppose him, he fights where he can. It's not "over" for him.
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u/Soulinyx 19h ago
His presidency will not be over, because he'll go in complete stonewall mode and drag ass.
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 19h ago
Ok real talk, not internet pictures: I wish that would be the case but a two thirds majority of the Senate still needs to vote to convict him, that didn't happen the last 2 times and it's not going to happen if they try it again. The Democrats would need to flip more than half the Republican seats that are up for reelection.
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u/734nasty 19h ago
For some reason I highly doubt he'll be leaving office, I hope, but I just don't see it. Can someone explain how this would happen?
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u/SlackToad 18h ago
90% of his most destructive and idiotic actions are done by EO and congress couldn't stop him even with a DEM majority. I don't see anything changing.
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u/Carrickfergus68 18h ago
The scary part is heās not panicking.
Heās not releasing funding for down ballot Republicans. Heās acting as if he doesnāt care at all. Why would that be?
I think Trump is days or weeks away from announcing complete federal takeover of all elections.
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u/Fabulous_Log844 18h ago
That's the plan. Vote as soon as you can. Tell those people that are coming out of the MAGA fog a little bit by a little bitā¦ But now is the time.
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u/JoinedToPostHere 18h ago
They have known since the start that this would effectively only be a 2year term for him.
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u/-WelcomeToDystopia- 18h ago
I don't wanna spoil the fun, but the minute you try to impeach Trump, I hope you're prepared. Because MAGA are going to make Jan 6 look like a walk in the park
Not a Trump supporter in any way btw
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u/Physical_Progress105 18h ago
But he got impeached twice in his first term and still ran his full term. I hope its true but his lack of respect for law and if he loses his presidency he will go to prison. He will spend the rest of his life as president
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u/Complete_Break1319 18h ago
The best thing that can happen in politics is nothing. It will be a replay of last time. Several impeachments that go nowhere and are costly to taxpayers. Ultimately though, no new laws or new taxes.
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u/bcky607 18h ago
I sure do know what Communism is. I spent a year in Vietnam fighting them. I know that China is the worst of the worst Communist country who killed millions if their own citizens and enslaved kids and adults even today. Is that the Communist government that you love ? Or do you also love the Nazi and Stalinist governments that killed and maimed over 10,000,000 Ukrainians during the First and Second World War eras. It even continues today. Do you own your own house and property? Forget it if the USA becomes a Communist or Socialist countryšš. If you think either will benefit this country you are crazy. We have many faults in this country but Socialism and Communism will not cure any of them.
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u/PrestigiousFlan1091 18h ago
I love how these posts are framed like the regime didnāt expect this and isnāt prepared for it. Like heās going to wake up after the election and say āgee whiz, shucksā. They will lie cheat and steal to get the midterms to go their way. If they somehow donāt, they will refuse to swear in the incumbents, they will tie up it up in court, hell they may even cancel the midterms all together.
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u/SomeLowerBeing 18h ago
It's okay maga, don't panik, he has a winning strategy: remind voters that this election is all about him.Ā
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u/GerblinPiker 18h ago
I think people need to start coming to terms with the fact that the GOP is pulling out all the stops to suppress votes, and it's going to be enough to dampen or even prevent the Dems from making meaningful gains in Congress.
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u/bcky607 18h ago
So what countries are your favorites? Mine is the USA and those that work with us to continue to make life better and more productive for their citizens . No country has a perfect country. Ever hear of the word compromise? If you are so concerned about human rights, racism, racism go find a country that treats its citizens better than the USA. 250 yrs of standing tall in this world is a great accomplishment even with our flaws. So tell me what is so great about Communism and give me some real time examples ššš
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u/grandbassam 18h ago
Trump doesnāt care about the midterms. Being a lame duck president for the remaining of his presidency will allow him to blame all of his shortcomings on the democrats.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 18h ago
There seems to be nothing he could do or say to make the party permanently unelectable.
Both he and others in his party faced minimal consequences for anything after swapping power with the other party last time, and no new protections or guardrails were put in place.
These claims of panic or fear seem to be false hope or excuses to refrain from taking any personal action today.
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u/ChimPhun 21h ago
The more he realizes, the more he's going to F with the process. Plus he might call out some BS excuse to not hold elections, lawful or not, not like he's a fan of laws and accountability.