r/Microbiome Feb 22 '25

Rule change regarding microbiome "testing"

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Hi everyone!

Thank you all for engaging in the r/Microbiome sub! This post is to notify everyone about a change in rules regarding GI maps, peddling services related to them, and asking for medical advice based on GI maps.

We will not be allowing posts asking for GI map interpretations from here on out (rule 7). Microbiome science is very much in its infancy, and we have very little understanding of how to interpret an individual's microbiome sequencing results. More specifically, we actually dont know what composition of microbes make up a healthy/unhealthy microbiome, both in presence/absence of microbes, and quantities of microbes. We know very little about the actual species within the microbiome. The ones we know more about are generally only more well studied only because they are easier to work with in the lab, not because they are more inportant. We have yet to culture most microbes in the collective human microbiome, meaning we also cant accurately identify many species via sequencing. There is also tons of genetic and functional variability within species, meaning we also cannot relate individual species to good/bad outcomes.

We also need to consider limitations of these tests. In as little as 24hrs, you can have a 100 fold change in many species. This means you can get incredibly different test results day-to-day, depending on many factors like sleep, excercise, diet, etc, within the last couple hours. Someone recently described microbiome testing as throwing a rock on the highway to predict traffic at all hours-- One rock wont tell us anything on the grand scheme of things. To be frank, these tests are also very cheap in their actual sequencing. Many of our most important microbes are in low abundance, which cheap sequencing and poor analysis fails to identify. Additionally, considering your microbiome has hundreds of species and thousands of strains, cheap testing often cant accurately differentiate between species. It is quite common for poor sequencing to misidentify or mis-classify closely related species or even genus'. A common example is Shigella being mistaken for Escherichia, or vice versa.

Many of the values that the microbiome tests predict are "ideal" are also totally arbitrary. We see major differences between different quantities of microbes within you over 24hrs, you vs your family, local community, country, and continent. However, no ideal microbiomes have been found, despite millions being sequenced at this point. There is tons of diversity in the global population, but there is no "ideal" values when it comes to microbes in your gut.

Secondly, we will be banning you if you are peddling services to others via this sub. We are an open and free discussion about microbiome science, and we use evidence when talking about the microbiome. People who claim to know how to interpret individual microbiome maps are either not knowledgable when it comes to the microbiome, or are lying to you, neither of which makes them trustworthy with your health. We will not allow this sub to be a place where people are taken advantage of and lied to about what is possible at this moment in microbiome science.

Finally, we want to remind you that this is not the place to ask for medical advice. Chat with your MD if you are concerned, nobody on here is more well versed than they are on specific symptoms. They will treat you accordingly. If you are seeking help for specific microbes, such as H. pylori, this is something your MD can test for. These results are accurate and interpreted correctly (not the case for GI maps), and will be significantly more affordable than GI map testing.

We aim to be a scientifically accurate, evidence-based sub, that provides digestible conversations about this complex science. These topics are not in line with our values.

We look forward to having everyone respecting these rules moving forward.

Happy microbiome-ing! :)


r/Microbiome Jun 29 '23

Statement of Continued Support for Disabled Users

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We stand with the disabled users of reddit and in our community. Starting July 1, Reddit's API policy blind/visually impaired communities will be more dependent on sighted people for moderation. When Reddit says they are whitelisting accessibility apps for the disabled, they are not telling the full story.TL;DR

  • Starting July 1, Reddit's API policy will force blind/visually impaired communities to further depend on sighted people for moderation
  • When reddit says they are whitelisting accessibility apps, they are not telling the full story, because Apollo, RIF, Boost, Sync, etc. are the apps r/Blind users have overwhelmingly listed as their apps of choice with better accessibility, and Reddit is not whitelisting them. Reddit has done a good job hiding this fact, by inventing the expression "accessibility apps."
  • Forcing disabled people, especially profoundly disabled people, to stop using the app they depend on and have become accustomed to is cruel; for the most profoundly disabled people, June 30 may be the last day they will be able to access reddit communities that are important to them.

If you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks:

Reddit abruptly announced that they would be charging astronomically overpriced API fees to 3rd party apps, cutting off mod tools for NSFW subreddits (not just porn subreddits, but subreddits that deal with frank discussions about NSFW topics).

And worse, blind redditors & blind mods [including mods of r/Blind and similar communities] will no longer have access to resources that are desperately needed in the disabled community.

Why does our community care about blind users?

As a mod from r/foodforthought testifies:

I was raised by a 30-year special educator, I have a deaf mother-in-law, sister with MS, and a brother who was born disabled. None vision-impaired, but a range of other disabilities which makes it clear that corporations are all too happy to cut deals (and corners) with the cheapest/most profitable option, slap a "handicap accessible" label on it, and ignore the fact that their so-called "accessible" solution puts the onus on disabled individuals to struggle through poorly designed layouts, misleading marketing, and baffling management choices. To say it's exhausting and humiliating to struggle through a world that able-bodied people take for granted is putting it lightly.

Reddit apparently forgot that blind people exist, and forgot that Reddit's official app (which has had over 9 YEARS of development) and yet, when it comes to accessibility for vision-impaired users, Reddit’s own platforms are inconsistent and unreliable. ranging from poor but tolerable for the average user and mods doing basic maintenance tasks (Android) to almost unusable in general (iOS).

Didn't reddit whitelist some "accessibility apps?"

The CEO of Reddit announced that they would be allowing some "accessible" apps free API usage: RedReader, Dystopia, and Luna.

There's just one glaring problem: RedReader, Dystopia, and Luna* apps have very basic functionality for vision-impaired users (text-to-voice, magnification, posting, and commenting) but none of them have full moderator functionality, which effectively means that subreddits built for vision-impaired users can't be managed entirely by vision-impaired moderators.

(If that doesn't sound so bad to you, imagine if your favorite hobby subreddit had a mod team that never engaged with that hobby, did not know the terminology for that hobby, and could not participate in that hobby -- because if they participated in that hobby, they could no longer be a moderator.)

Then Reddit tried to smooth things over with the moderators of r/blind. The results were... Messy and unsatisfying, to say the least.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14ds81l/rblinds_meetings_with_reddit_and_the_current/

*Special shoutout to Luna, which appears to be hustling to incorporate features that will make modding easier but will likely not have those features up and running by the July 1st deadline, when the very disability-friendly Apollo app, RIF, etc. will cease operations. We see what Luna is doing and we appreciate you, but a multimillion dollar company should not have have dumped all of their accessibility problems on what appears to be a one-man mobile app developer. RedReader and Dystopia have not made any apparent efforts to engage with the r/Blind community.

Thank you for your time & your patience.


r/Microbiome 3h ago

1 year and a half after strong antibiotics - feeling bad all the time. Any advice?

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Hey everyone. I'm wondering if anyone is or has been in a situation similar to mine. If anyone can give me some advice I will be extremely grateful. I've been living without an answer for over a year and a half. I'll keep this as brief as possible.

Background: 31M. Splenectomy in 2011 (trauma), otherwise no GI problems until 2025. In Jan 2025 I did H. pylori quadruple therapy and tolerated it very badly - days after finishing I developed bloody mucous diarrhea, weight loss and felt generally unwell. Fecal calprotectin peaked around 1150. It all started then. It was the first time I had taken such medications in my life and no one - neither my doctor nor the pharmacists - warned me when purchasing such a strong medication that I should also take probiotics.

Extensive workup Feb-Apr 2025: gastroscopy EUS, colonoscopy with biopsies, CT with contrast, abdominal MRI with contrast, many blood/stool tests. This ruled out IBD back then (colon), celiac, microscopic colitis, pancreatic/biliary/liver/kidney/thyroid disease and cancer. Over the following months I recovered most of the weight and calprotectin dropped to ~11–38, where it stayed for about a year. CRP and ESR normal.

Since then: developed methane SIBO/IMO (treated with rifaximin+ neomycin 3 months ago, breath test now negative). May 2026 gastroscopy for new small but frequent epigastric pain - biopsy showed chronic inactive antral gastritis, H. pylori negative, no atrophy, no metaplasia.

Current symptoms that worry me: constant burning/discomfort/weird pain around the navel (feels like small bowel probably), flatulence, occasional nausea, frequent brain fog, fatigue, sometimes night sweats and daytime hot flashes (normal body temp). Sometimes i have cramp in the lower LEFT abdomen (passes in minutes, no diarrhea). Bowel movements mostly 1/2x day, same time, morning fluffy stool . Diarrhea only about once every one week.

Blood/mucus episodes: 3 times over the 1.5 years, small amounts, once attributed to grade I hemorrhoids by a proctologist. Most recent episode ~10 days ago (small blood + mucus, now settled after single episode). I ate mushrooms (can't eat it) and got diarhea and I was holding it in a car for 40 min. Fecal calprotectin taken 24h after that episode came back 92 (lab range: <80 none, 80–160 indeterminate, >160 inflammation).

Deficiencies: B12 trending down (lowest 211), ferritin low (17–31), iron once 6.0. Pancreatic elastase >800 (normal). I take supplements for this and its improving.

Important: my small bowel has never been imaged - no MR/CT enterography, no capsule etc. My colonoscopy and standard abdominal MRI don't cover the mid small bowel. A gastroenterologist has recommended enterography to look for small bowel Crohn's, which I'll do in a month/two back home.

Question - has anyone here experienced a similar situation to mine? I can't find anyone online who has experienced something similar. It's very difficult to live in this state.


r/Microbiome 3h ago

How much damage did one week of antibiotics (Amoxicillin) do?

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So I recently had to take Amoxicillin for a week for a tooth infection while I waited for my appointment to get it extracted. I’ve known about the negatives of antibiotics before hand and because of that I’m always hesitant to take them unless absolutely necessary. I took them in this situation because I’ve read stories of people dying from a tooth infection and while it’s rare it still worried me so I didn’t want to risk it.

To help my gut recover I bought some L.Reuteri capsules and I’m going to try and buy some Kimchi for probiotics. I have a dairy allergy so it’s one of the only options for me.


r/Microbiome 16h ago

Scientific Article Discussion Which Probiotics Work Best for Sleep Quality?

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I read a book called Super Gut from the library, and it was so good I bought it for myself. Over the last 3 years or so, at times, I had 20-25 jars of probiotic ferments in the frig, so have lots of experience and samples. Recently I had exceptional sleep quality, two days in a row, which I never experienced before. Usually if I had one good night seep, 6 hours or so, then the next night it would be way worse than normal.

I was trying 8 different probiotics when the sleep got better, so asked Ai which was helping and the Ai said two were probably doing the work for sleep. I will list the strains, only, as I don't know if I should mention brand names until I establish some credibility . I also then asked Ai which other probiotics would work well to ferment, in half and half, with some inulin about 100F, in a water bath, and it said to add the additional R GG, and most common reuteri also to the other two brands.

One of the newest strain were L plantarum PS128.

The other was L helveticus Rosell-52ND, and B Longum Rosell 175

Anybody can ask Ai which probiotics are best for sleep and then we can compare results to each other in the future.

When I get sleepy am also having exceptional yawns, and my stool has been exceptional where my stool means full clearance of colon, not just partial clearance, and almost few or no toilet paper, but the other 6 probiotics may be the difference on that.

Maybe they are reducing cortisol.
Ai cited which scientific evidence about each 4 different brands and strains, if you ask Ai


r/Microbiome 17h ago

Scientific Article Discussion A probiotic species is not a probiotic strain — why do we still talk about them as if they are?

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One thing I’ve found increasingly interesting in probiotic research is how much biological activity can differ between strains belonging to the same species.
For example, two strains of Lactobacillus may differ substantially in:
bile and acid tolerance
adhesion to intestinal cells
bacteriocin production
carbohydrate metabolism
interaction with other microbes
immune signalling
clinical evidence
So I’ve been working on a book specifically focused on strain-level differences in probiotics, rather than treating “Lactobacillus” or “Bifidobacterium” as if they were single biological entities.
The book is called PROBIOTICS & SPECIFIC STRAINS and examines the evidence surrounding specific strains and their reported properties.
I’m curious what microbiologists and people working with the gut microbiome think:
How important do you consider strain-level identification when evaluating probiotic research?
Book:

https://www.amazon.com/PROBIOTICS-SPECIFIC-STRAINS-S-OZTURK-ebook/dp/B0H6X4L3F3


r/Microbiome 16h ago

People’s experience with Vitl Daily Biotic. Have you noticed any difference in your gut health?

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r/Microbiome 1d ago

anyone? bad taste?

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I have a lower-left impacted wisdom tooth. When I try to smell the saliva that sits around the tooth compared to the saliva on my tongue, they smell different. The saliva around my wisdom tooth smells kind of off, saliva on my tongue smells normal. I also have a bad taste that seems to come from the side where my impacted tooth is.
Has anyone here experienced this before? If so, did getting the wisdom tooth removed get rid of the bad breath and bad taste?


r/Microbiome 1d ago

An atlas of colonization factors in the human gut microbiome reveals ecological strategies and inflammatory bowel disease signatures | Aug 2026

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r/Microbiome 2d ago

Scientific Article Discussion Gut bacteria linked to key brain chemicals in first-of-its-kind human study

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r/Microbiome 1d ago

Chronic gut illness advice (28f)

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Hello everyone

I'm not seeking medical advice in my post, but rather potential new avenues to explore with my doctors please 🙏

I've been suffering for 4 years. I had a bad food poisoning, which I recovered from with a lot of probiotics but then a constant brain fog developed, and never went away. I was treated for SIBO several months afterwards but this made my brain fog WORSE and my gut issues mostly remained. My worst issues are brain fog that never leaves, bloating, reflux, low energy, tinnitus.

I spent a long time working on my microbiome, but I found probiotics, fibres (even PHGG) would flare my symptoms and sometimes lower my baseline.

Given how quickly I respond to things that flare me (within 45 mins), I figure there must be something wrong in my small intestine. But why would Rifaximin make me so much worse, if that were the case and why did Rifaximin give me DPDR?

I tried an elemental diet, and just a simple carb diet and low FODMAP, and none of these helped my brain symptoms at all.

I've had so many tests, from endoscopy, to brain scan, to vitamin deficiencies. Every single test is normal!

Does anyone have any ideas on what to do next?


r/Microbiome 1d ago

If you were to design a diet aims at increasing butyrate production, how would you go about doing it, without going very low carb or keto?

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I know fiber, fiber, fiber. But if I were to build a daily base of food sources with the right types of fiber, which would be a core group?


r/Microbiome 1d ago

could root cause be.. cheese?!

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r/Microbiome 1d ago

Recovering from Doxycycline- need help

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r/Microbiome 1d ago

Does strain count actually matter, or is it a number on the label?

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One bottle has ten strains, another has three at a higher count, and a third leads on the prebiotic instead. I can’t tell whether more strains means broader coverage or just a better front of pack. What I’d like is a sense of what actually determines whether one is doing anything. What are people here looking at when they choose?


r/Microbiome 1d ago

Bad reaction combining a Bifidobacterium probiotic (BB536) with sertraline — anyone experienced this?

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Hi all,

Posting this to see if anyone's run into something similar, since I couldn't find much online specific to probiotics.

I've been on sertraline for a while. Recently I added a Bifidobacterium longum BB536 probiotic supplement alongside it. For the first while there were some genuinely positive effects on my mood. But it progressively got to be too much — I ended up with irritability, insomnia, feeling overheated, anxiety, brain fog, and general overstimulation. It got pretty chaotic and honestly a bit scary.

I stopped taking the probiotic, and the symptoms are already starting to ease off after about 24 hours.

From what I've read, this pattern — a mood lift that tips over into agitation/insomnia/heat/anxiety on top of an SSRI — lines up with excess serotonergic activity, which made me wonder if the strain was nudging serotonin/tryptophan pathways enough to matter combined with the sertraline. I'm planning to bring this up with my doctor too, but wanted to ask here first:

Has anyone else had a reaction like this combining a probiotic (this strain or a different one) with sertraline or another SSRI?

Did it resolve this fast for you once you stopped?

Did your doctor have any insight into it?

On the flip side: has anyone found a specific probiotic strain—particularly for mental clarity or brain fog—that you tolerate well alongside sertraline or other SSRIs without triggering this kind of overstimulation?

Appreciate any input — this doesn't seem to have many documented cases out there, at least not with probiotics specifically.


r/Microbiome 1d ago

Urgent question : mGAM media for anaerobes

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Calling all experts and techs,

We work with mGAM in hungates to culture gut anaerobes in the lab.

Off late, after media prep, we are running into a constant problem where the hungates have a cloudy white precipitation, or even flaky floaties in autoclaved tubes sitting in the cold room, not more than a week old.

This is very concerning and drastically affects our ODs and we doubt if we can trust the media.

If anyone has any experience on this regard, please do help me out.

Im answering all protocol related questions to see where Im going wrong.


r/Microbiome 1d ago

Empirical evidence for gut microbial influence on human brain neurochemistry via the gut–brain axis | Aug 2026

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r/Microbiome 1d ago

Senokot

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I was just prescribed Senokot for constipation. Constipation made worse by taking PPIs and steroids. It’s supposed to be natural. Does anyone have experience with this? Also I probably have SIBO.


r/Microbiome 1d ago

Bad reaction combining a Bifidobacterium probiotic (BB536) with sertraline — anyone experienced this?

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Hi all,Posting this to see if anyone's run into something similar, since I couldn't find much online specific to probiotics.I've been on sertraline for a while. Recently I added a Bifidobacterium longum BB536 probiotic supplement alongside it. For the first while there were some genuinely positive effects on my mood. But it progressively got to be too much — I ended up with irritability, insomnia, feeling overheated, anxiety, brain fog, and general overstimulation. It got pretty chaotic and honestly a bit scary.I stopped taking the probiotic, and the symptoms are already starting to ease off after about 24 hours.From what I've read, this pattern — a mood lift that tips over into agitation/insomnia/heat/anxiety on top of an SSRI — lines up with excess serotonergic activity, which made me wonder if the strain was nudging serotonin/tryptophan pathways enough to matter combined with the sertraline. I'm planning to bring this up with my doctor too, but wanted to ask here first:Has anyone else had a reaction like this combining a probiotic (this strain or a different one) with sertraline or another SSRI?Did it resolve this fast for you once you stopped?Did your doctor have any insight into it?On the flip side: has anyone found a specific probiotic strain—particularly for mental clarity or brain fog—that you tolerate well alongside sertraline or other SSRIs without triggering this kind of overstimulation?Appreciate any input — this doesn't seem to have many documented cases out there, at least not with probiotics specifically.


r/Microbiome 1d ago

Akersmania and clostridium butyrium

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Anybody advise a good product brand please
Preferably no additives and prebiotics as I have MCAS


r/Microbiome 2d ago

Is simple Apple Pectin a good Binder?

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I want to slowly add a binder while i’m working on my gut. Is apple pectin a good option?

Any other safe suggestions?


r/Microbiome 2d ago

Skin worse after L reuteri Yoghurt, die-off?

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I have been consuming 1 cup of L reuteri yoghurt since 12 days now. The reason i started was my skin issues (Acne, Rosacea, Keratosis Pilaris). Since then I have gotton stomach pain, bloating, gas and sometimes a little headaches always about 6 hours after the yoghurt, which lasted 1-5 hours. My skin also seems worse with more pimples and generally more inflamed. Is this a die off? I normally don't have issues with histamine.


r/Microbiome 2d ago

How to promote a good microbiome

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I dont like pickled things and I tried kefir and it tasted awful. Is there any other ways?


r/Microbiome 2d ago

Coconut create anxiety, Leaky gut ?

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Is the Leaky gut the reason why some foods (for example coconut, dairy,gluten) causes anxiety ?