r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 21h ago

Russia/Ukraine ‘We Were Mistaken’: Putin Admits Russia Was Unprepared for Ukrainian Strikes on Oil Refineries

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/83674
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u/CliftonForce 13h ago

America expected Iran to surrender after the first day of bombing.

Similar outlook.

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u/Emotional_Remove_755 12h ago

No, that was just Trump’s expectation. The majority of the neocons knew better, which was why they were all so excited for it.

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u/Phantereal 11h ago

They expected Iran to be like Venezuela.

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u/SilencedFarter 11h ago

Had hoped for another mass uprising of the people but with 40-50k of them killed months earlier fewer were available.

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u/Efficient_Loquat232 11h ago

Funny thing is Americans making fun of Russia killing school children when the US also were doing the same in Iran.

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u/LogicMan428 11h ago

The U.S. doing it was due to a mistake. Russia doing it was due to just not caring and randomly firing their artillery all over the place.

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u/CliftonForce 11h ago

The Pentagon used to have a group whose job it was to check target lists for things like schools.

Hegseth got rid of it last year for being woke.

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u/Flamin_Jango 11h ago edited 11h ago

If you really think its a mistake when they've already admitted that they knew it was a school, then you're a mistake my friend, you don't accidentally doubletap a target unless you're going for complete destruction, they targeted the school because it had alot of the IRGC's commanding officers children there, it was intentionally done to lower their morale, again intentional but keep justifying baby killers if that helps you sleep at night.

Edit: if you want to have a debate dealing with matter of fact not matter of opinion I welcome it, but other than that please do some research and realize that the Ukrainian war was started as another means to funnel money out of our country to warmongering billionaires because we got pulled out of the middle east and they could no longer funnel money there. And please don't try to justify any of the genocide happening in the middle east currently do your best to stay on the right side of history, because if you support that war, just say HI to Satan for me when ya get where your going ill be chilling up top with the big man.

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u/Efficient_Loquat232 2h ago

I see death of school children is seen as a common mistake only in the US, but if other countries does it is war against humanity?

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u/Enough_Way_6719 11h ago

Nobody else chimed in on your comment so figured I would because honestly you’re right. Look at the Russia Ukraine war in the beginning and the tactics used by Putin to hide the true losses he was and has been taking seems oddly familiar… no help from our Ally’s because the one who started the war we are wrapped up in.. Bibi.. cough.. cough is an international war criminal. We no longer have enough munitions to launch a successful shoring or put foot’s on the ground without dwarfing the losses sustained in Vietnam. We’ve burned through our tomahawks like we’re burning through the national debt and we’ve won this war 200 times over but the straight is still Iranian controlled 🤦‍♂️

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u/LogicMan428 11h ago

Bibi is not any war criminal. Not in the slightest. In fact, the IDF should be applauded for the level of skill it has shown in this war in killing so few people. And nobody cares one bit about the Palestinians. They are just a prop used to bash Israel. That's why Hamas can terrorize and steal from them and no one cares, and Hezbollah can terrorize and mass murder Lebanese and Syrians and no one cares. People only feign outrage when Israel defends itself. The Ayatollah however was a major international war criminal, responsible for all manner of suffering in the Middle East.

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u/Enough_Way_6719 9h ago

Shouldn’t the war against the ones terrorizing and mass murder be waged against the ones terrorizing and mass murdering? By all standards The United States and Israel are both responsible for targeting and bombing civilian structures. You can try and say “but that’s where the groups headquarters are” but according to statistics in just the Iran war civilian casualties outweigh military casualties by 500 people they’re sending bombs in off decades old intel and rationalizing genocide. If the countries fighting “terrorism” are killing more innocents than “terrorists” how are we not creating terror.

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u/LogicMan428 7h ago

How is the war not against the ones terrorizing and committing mass murder? And yes, civilian structures have been hit. It's a war and unfortunately, given the way Hamas and the Iranian regime fight, there have been civilian areas hit. There is no rationalizing of genocide.

Israel can't just not do anything because civilians could get killed. Trump's continued fighting in Iran is questionable, however from a moral standpoint that regime absolutely needs to be destroyed. It is hellbent on destroying both the U.S. and Israel and is responsible for a massive amount of suffering, from gunning down and torturing its own citizens to causing a famine in Yemen via the Houthis to the suffering caused by Hamas to the Palestinians (which it funds, yes I know Israel technically created Hamas, but the Iranian regime funds it now) and the suffering caused by Hezbollah to the people of Lebanon and Syria, plus of course the suffering caused to the Israeli people by both of those entities. It also finances terrorism throughout the globe.