r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 21h ago

Russia/Ukraine ‘We Were Mistaken’: Putin Admits Russia Was Unprepared for Ukrainian Strikes on Oil Refineries

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/83674
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u/ruchik 20h ago

This sounds like the US as well…

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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 20h ago

This person 1/3rds are not based on political stance though. The 1/3 of each category could be spread across the whole political spectrum.

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u/Straight-Balance830 19h ago

In the American Revolution, a third were Loyalists, another third were revolutionaries, and the other third were indifferent. About the Nazis, someone remarked “a third of society killed the other third, and the last third just watched”. I think it’s a valid general rule of ideological distribution.

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u/Yardsale420 19h ago

Dear America:
You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches.
—Werner Herzog

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u/unurbane 19h ago

When was that written?

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u/Odie_Odie 19h ago

He didnt say it really but the fabrication spread in 2017 according to Politifaq. I believe the quote but I just think it came from some tweet.

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u/chris_ut 18h ago

Standard fake reddit political slop. Half the folks who post here are russian/chinese bots

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u/BaldursFenceDoor 16h ago

1/3rd are Russian. 1/3rd are Chinese bots. 1/3rd are Giga Chads like me

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u/chiPersei 18h ago

This quote was not said by filmmaker Werner Herzog; it originated from a satirical Twitter parody account @WernerTwertzog in 2017.

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u/theT3rr04 18h ago

It's like the same thing.

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u/CheshireCat78 18h ago

Just now. 😁

I’m sorry I will see myself out.

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u/unurbane 18h ago

Hahaha

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u/JadedBoyfriend 18h ago

I understood the reference 😉

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u/Adjective_Noun_2000 18h ago

It's a great quote but it's not from Herzog. It's from a Twitter account called Werner Twertzog (back in the days before Twitter was lost to the first 1/3).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/werner-herzog-germany-quote/

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u/WizardSleeves31 18h ago

I love his voice.

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u/seeingeyegod 16h ago

It's so much more powerful when you read it in his voice.

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u/Unhappy_Mycologist_6 10h ago

Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches. —Werner Herzog

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/werner-herzog-germany-quote/

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u/Xtj8805 18h ago

Yea ive seen numerous studies where in essentially any population of people and even most subpopulations always tend to split this way, 1/3 to each side and 1/3 in the middle cant be bothered. Even in more ideologically pure areas you still get it to some some extent where 1/3 are full steam, 1/3 tend to be overly cautious and 1/3 somewhere between/not interested in picking sides.

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u/RushIllustrious 18h ago

So if you're not watching, you better do the killing or you'll be killed is what I learned here.

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u/mattmillze 20h ago

Same thing could be said about Americans. There are people on both sides that fit neatly into all three of these categories. Main difference is that ours flips every 4-8 years and people switch which category they're in at the time.

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u/baumpop 17h ago

every single city and town has the rules of thirds

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u/Environmental-Video3 18h ago

Americans have the ability to, and the strongest will, to say whatever they want whenever they want.

The ratios of support for government are applicable to any country.

In terms of political opposition though Russians are bred to say nothing to nobody about anything. Ever. They used to be disappeared during Stalinist purges but now they just have poorly maintained windows.

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u/fairlywired 16h ago

Maybe it's just the way it looks from the outside but it always seems like Americans will stage a couple protests for big issues but when there's no immediate change, most go back to just putting up with it and complaining online.

People seem to be more content with asking if it's time to do something than actually doing something.

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u/derinus 18h ago

That ability is fading. We'll see about that will power when ICE knocks on the door

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u/DefinitelynotaDAPL 18h ago

Yep. We've never really had secret "police"(i use that term lightly) disappearing people... until now.

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u/bigrv 16h ago

Also they have those special handguns that allow you to commit suicide by shooting yourself twice in the back of the head.

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u/Environmental-Video3 15h ago

America has those too. See Barry Seal.

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u/Ghazzz 17h ago

I feel there are very few dissenting opinions coming out of the white house. It all seems very strictly kept in line.

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u/Environmental-Video3 17h ago

I’m not talking about politicians toeing the party line. They will say what their whip tells them to say.
The average citizen though has the enshrined in law right to scream at and berate their representatives wherever they want.

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u/Ghazzz 3h ago

There being a whip telling politicians how to act is a fantastic example of cultural suppression of dissenting voices.

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u/Environmental-Video3 1h ago

That’s how political parties be all over the world. And management boards of companies and NGOs and schools and plenty of other types of organisations. But the average US citizen still has the right to say whatever they want.

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u/oxnume 15h ago

Amercans have no will. Just a bunch of pathetic losers that pretend to be tough but will gladly lick the boot.

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u/FuckOffClippy 13h ago

> Americans have the ability to, and the strongest will, to say whatever they want whenever they want.

In many respects, and in a lot of the time, yes. But not under Nixon, not during Vietnam, and not under Trump. Shit ain’t so great here right now. The Feds are killing people for speaking up, shooting and beating people up left and right, and charging everyone else that they can to put them through the wringer, to bankrupt them—with no safety nets!—and to ruin their lives.

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u/Consistent_Slice_752 8h ago

It's just a matter of time. He's declared all media and people who criticize him "enemies. " he has his AG attack and criticize lawful protesters after they were murdered by the American Gestapo (ICE). Some folks were just in the wrong place at were following law enforcement instructions and got murdered anyway.

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u/Wayelder 19h ago

eerily familliar.

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u/DGtlRift 19h ago

Especially since somehow the orange stain still has 33% approval among the electorate.

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u/Wayelder 18h ago

They'll fall together as they held each other up.

In both Nations they've reversed the power roles. The State Rules the people. The people fear the state.

That's new-ish n the USA - the reverse of what they've had for 30 years

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u/Ok-Selection4206 18h ago

Because of the useless lying idiots on the other side of the aisle.

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u/vortox1234 18h ago

Blame everyone but the people voting for evil

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u/AdventurousVast6510 15h ago

except that the comment you replied to is untrue

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u/noir_lord 14h ago

The US is where Russia was 25ish years ago, I didn't think the US would get this bad this fast given Russia always had weak democratic institutions (given they where a decade old and the US was 250 years old and mostly stable since late 19th) but here we are.

Americans if you want to see your current future in a decade or so at most, look at Russia circa ~2015 basically.

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u/Helmett-13 18h ago

If that was true our prisons were be full to capacity with political opponents...well, the ones that weren't tossed out of windows.

Americans aren't scared to speak up about the shitty things their government perpetrates.

When was the last time a "No More Kings" protest was held in Moscow? Ah, yes, that's right.

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u/tdog_2005 17h ago

Yes the world would be a lot better place with out Putin and Trump , both evil pos

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u/Fingersicle 18h ago

Crazy how the land of Ruby Ridge, militias and Waco have become.

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u/DecantsForAll 11h ago

If Russia were normal that 1/3 would be doing standard political opposition and trying to persuade the 1/3

Yeah, except in the US instead of 1/3 doing standard political opposition and trying to persuade the 1/3, or learning to keep quiet, they actively try to push that 1/3 to the other side.

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u/shootsy2457 18h ago

That was Trump’s plan.

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u/JWWBurger 18h ago

I had to do a CE for work related to change management, which largely focused on how to implement changes and effectively communicate to change a system. Every step of the way, it felt clear that this administration is doing largely everything mentioned in the class to implement the sort of gangsterism Putin runs.

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u/LakEth2n 18h ago

Sounds like every big countries I think

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u/cienfuegos2607 19h ago

You don't need to be quiet in US. So 1/3 is indifferent to Trump administration and 2/3 are supporting it

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u/TrazhMazter 18h ago

You haven’t seen people protesting across all 50 states? The “quiet” 1/3 in the Russian scenario are the protesters in America. It’s a little delusional to think he still has 2/3 of American supporters.

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u/cienfuegos2607 17h ago

There's some people with signs here and there, I know.

But it's not like the president militia is shooting your citizen in the face, fucked the global oil market including your own country, threatening to invade Europe and annexing your your most loyal ally and neighbor.

I can't believe most americans are not supporting this. Because you are doing nothing to stop it. Nothing.

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u/TrazhMazter 16h ago

What would you suggest law abiding citizens do to stop it besides protesting?

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u/Outrageous_Cicada401 16h ago

This is not accurate. Speaking up in America has a social cost, since most towns and even families are split on politics.
Those who speak up are just ignorant of how much it affects them.