r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 21h ago

Russia/Ukraine ‘We Were Mistaken’: Putin Admits Russia Was Unprepared for Ukrainian Strikes on Oil Refineries

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/83674
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u/IndividualSkill3432 21h ago

sumed that these were purely civilian facilities and could not be targets of any kind of attacks even amid an armed conflict,”

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

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u/Capable-Parsnip-9615 19h ago

Came here just looking for someone quoting this

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u/Allaplgy 19h ago

Granted, and this is not excusing Putin at all, the US and basically every other Western country does the same shit. Bomb other countries under the pretext of some grand justification, then act surprised, insulted, and downright hurt when they face any repercussions outside the "battlefield" that they chose in a different country.

It's stupid when he does it, it's stupid when we do it.

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u/IndividualSkill3432 19h ago

 Bomb other countries under the pretext of some grand justification, then act surprised, insulted, and downright hurt when they face any repercussions outside the "battlefield" that they chose in a different country.

You mean when Osama bin Laden and had his fanatics fly aircraft into buildings because the US kicked Saddam out of Kuwait? If you think that is the same as Ukraine striking back at a Russian invasion then we do not have a shared reality to have a discussion over.

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u/No_Leadership8107 19h ago edited 18h ago

Iraq had nothing to do with Osama and 9/11 he was not connected to the gulf war in Kuwait in what world did you get that info? to justify also invading Iraq and not just Afghanistan and destroying my dear Country which we have still not gotten any apologies or reparations for the over 1 Mil innocents that died, what the US did was a million times worse than whatever Russia is doing now, we obviously don’t share the same reality bc all of this leading to 9/11 came from Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, who made up most of the hijackers, some from UAE, Kuwait who all share the same Hardline Wahhabi ideology, US did absolutely nothing to the country’s responsible and actually helped these countries launder their reputation and pin it on Saddam, Osama said clearly his motive was bc of Israel and US involvement with Israel and Zionism, it’s your horseshit excuses and downright schizo theories to justify invading my country of Iraq that led to our tight borders failing, saddam kept out the radicals mostly then when US took him, AlQueda then Isis came and after the extensive debaathification, the traumatised and now powerless sunni Masses became radicalised and alot joined, it’s you people and your bs reasons to unjustly invade that led to Many Muslims hating America and some joining Isis, y probably don’t even know the difference between shia, sunni, Wahhabi, etc so stop talking about shit you don’t know and burn in hell for contributions in my country’s destruction

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u/IndividualSkill3432 18h ago

"Iraq had nothing to do with Osama and 9/11 he was not connected to the gulf war in Kuwait in what world did you get that info? "

From Osama bin Laden, he stated driving Americans out of Saudi and Arabia was one of his goals. There are many many quotes from him on this goal.

For the future, bin Laden told me his first priority is to get the American military out of Saudi Arabia, the holiest of lands in Islam. "Every day the Americans delay their departure, they will receive a new corpse."

Already, U. S. forces have been dealt devastating blows there. Nineteen servicemen were killed in the 1996 bombing of the airforce barracks in Dhahran, and five U. S. military personnel were killed in a similar bombing in Riyadh in 1995. Investigators believe bin Laden is tied at some level to both attacks. Bin Laden said that the American military would leave Saudi Arabia, regardless of the fact that the Saudi royal family welcomes the American presence. "It does not make a difference if the government wants you to stay or leave. You will leave when the youth send you in wooden boxes and coffins. And you will carry in them the bodies of American troops and civilians. This is when you will leave."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/miller.html

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u/No_Leadership8107 18h ago

Doesn’t connect Osama to Saddam, Saddam stated and showed with actions from the Iraqi Army that he was a staunch Enemy of Osama and their extremist groups, none of your evidence condemns Saddam or the Country of Iraq, it shows that Saudi, the Gulf Arab countries and also Zionism/Western influences to be his motives, the Gulf war being an influence was because of US presence now more firmly in the region and Saddam being defeated but that doesn’t show any Collaboration between Iraq and Osama, and the US having to propagandise for two years to make Iraq look guilty enough and gather enough public and military support from the stupid public instead of immediately invading like they did Afghanistan shows that Iraq was illegal, immoral and wrong from the start, Afghanistan was a different story that was actually a morally fine invasion because of the evidence

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u/Allaplgy 19h ago

I mean literally any attack on "allied territory." Or even "our guys/allies" in their territory.

But also, holy shit, it's 2026 and you think that Sept 11th was about Kuwait!?

You are right, we do not have a "shared reality". WTactualF.

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u/IndividualSkill3432 19h ago

I mean literally any attack on "allied territory." Or even "our guys/allies" in their territory.

9/11 is part of "any attack"

you think that Sept 11th was about Kuwait!?

It was about a hyper religious and hyper conservative zealot flying into a murderous rage over the pressence of non Muslims in Arabia, the war over Kuwait was a big part of that. Bin Ladens rambling horseshit covered many other justifications.

Basically he was a fanatic and a religious bigot.

You are right, we do not have a "shared reality". WTactualF.

Moscow is in the wrong over Ukraine. Salafist Jihadis are in the wrong for existing.

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u/Allaplgy 19h ago

Moscow is in the wrong over Ukraine.

No shit.

I see there is no point talking to someone who can not see themselves in a mirror.