r/worldnews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 21h ago

Russia/Ukraine ‘We Were Mistaken’: Putin Admits Russia Was Unprepared for Ukrainian Strikes on Oil Refineries

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/83674
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u/nightwyrm_zero 21h ago

Even in Israel's case, they're usually not defending against state-level actors with dedicated state-level industrial resources in an open war.

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u/Bolandball 20h ago

List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel in 2023 - Wikipedia

Over 4,000 missiles on Oct 7 alone. Over 10,500 total over October and November of that year.

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u/P1ssBobSh1tPants69 19h ago

Those were cheap dumb sugar rockets. But yeah they were still unprepared for it. That's why they are now building lasers.

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u/KingFapNTits 19h ago

…… they’re missiles and their targets were whole cities. They don’t have to be accurate, and they still have to be shot down. They still kill people lol. They’re bombs.

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u/SteveL_VA 18h ago

To be completely fair: some of them, at least, are so small they'd have to be a direct hit on a person to kill them. I remember watching a video of one hitting a courtyard, I think it left a little divot? A cat was nearby, it ran away scared.

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u/YoureAmastyx 18h ago

Oh, so those ones are okay? Those ones can go on through.

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u/SteveL_VA 18h ago

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable, just that they're not all these super dangerous, massively destructive weapons.

I desire accuracy and context, I'm not taking a side.

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u/Think_Solid235 18h ago

They’re rockets, dumbfire MLRS where half didn’t even make it where they were meant to lmao

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 15h ago

Show me a photo of any city in Palestine rn. What does it look like.

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u/tittiesan 21h ago

Iran is the exception to this and it shows Israel’s limitations in air defense systems.

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u/pentox70 18h ago

States with advanced intelligence technology and top teir drone technology, to boot.

Not just a crude home made rocket.

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u/RheagarTargaryen 21h ago

U.S. has 2 massive oceans on either side. Guess it’s a good thing that we have 2 friendly neighbors bordering our country and not threatening to annex them… right? Right?

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u/MobiusOne_ISAF 19h ago

Even if they weren't friendly, it'd be really difficult to do much damage to the US without severely compromising their own positions. Pretty much everything relevant in Canada is within 100 miles of the US along a completely indefensible border. Mexico would similarly struggle, they have a better position defensively but trying to strike anything north of the Carolinas would be a struggle, and most of their industry is in the North right along the US border.

Not that I'm expecting this to ever actually come to effect, but the US has ridiculous defensive geography, to the point where it feels like cheating.

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u/RheagarTargaryen 19h ago

I know, I’m just making a joke since historically, it’s always been a positive for the US that it’s friendly with its only neighbors that share a land border. But recent events have strained those relationships.

My overall point is that most of the unfriendly countries are far out of drone strike range at this point so it’s still not something US cities have to worry about.

But if Canada did create a drone program, they have a massive area of land to launch them from to hit US cities. So if we did tried to do that idiotic thing of going to war with Canada, American cities getting bombed would be very likely. And if the rest of NATO does their obligation, it would be the full force of The UK, France, Turkey, Italy, Germany, etc.

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u/Glock13Purdy 18h ago

most of the world's major powers have really good geography. the UK being an island whose navy can control the North Atlantic on the european side, Japan for obvious reasons being almost impossible to launch a full land invasion on, india being a peninsula with the himalayan range separating it from the rest of Asia and naval control over the Indian Ocean. even germany is pretty good. australia isn't great from an offensive perspective but has even better defensive geography than the US.

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u/vkrty 18h ago

The major downside of Australia is also its location. It is so far from allies which makes it incredibly difficult to reach to help defend or resupply.

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u/TheFirstAI 18h ago

Also, what the heck would we even hold that is worth invading us anyway? The logistical nightmare alone from trying to get to us is already not worth whatever resources we hold.

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u/vkrty 18h ago

The sun. They will invade and cover the entire country in solar panels.

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u/this_dudeagain 20h ago

I mean most illegal drugs come from Mexico and elsewhere in South America. Canada not so much.

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u/deja-roo 19h ago

I welcome our new taco truck overlords

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u/Mr_E_Monkey 18h ago

Yeah, I don't see that as anything but an absolute win.

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u/vipandvap 19h ago

They enter cause Americans demand those drugs. Mexico and central/South America aren't sending drugs here for fun

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u/Matt9681 18h ago

They come from the American Government too, bigger threat to their own people than either of the above tbh.

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u/this_dudeagain 15h ago

Sure bud

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u/vipandvap 13h ago

Not surprised you didn't respond to me

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u/WHATAREWEYELINGABOUT 19h ago

Hey, that 20KG of fentanyl that crossed from Canada to the US is justification for Trump declaring Canada responsible for all the drug problems in the US.

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u/FunGeologist218 18h ago

We forgetting that trump pardoned a literal drug kingpin?

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u/Mr_E_Monkey 18h ago

The Silk Road CEO, or am I missing another one?

Wait, there was the president of the Honduras too, right?

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u/FunGeologist218 17h ago

Yep!!! It’s absurd

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u/Mr_E_Monkey 17h ago

That's one of the more...polite words for it. 🙂

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u/FunGeologist218 17h ago

If I use any other ones it won’t leave my mind and I’ll be angry for the rest of the day. I can’t fucking believe this is the world we live in. I wish there was something I could do/I wish I could do more. It’s just sad and really depressing n disheartening

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u/PrionProofPork 16h ago

we invade them with people seeking cheap meds and dentistry

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u/KyloRen3 19h ago

Cuba will remain forever relevant in this context

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u/RheagarTargaryen 19h ago

Yeah, good thing we have Florida as a buffer space before they can do any real damage.

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u/Pale-Try-4802 18h ago

Alaska is a part of the US and is only 2.4 miles away from Russia at it's closest point. You're closer than it seems, granted Russia would have to storm through Canada to get to mainland US, and those 2 close points are very desolate, but the way flat maps are it makes it seem as if Russia is way further away than they actually are.

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u/RheagarTargaryen 17h ago

I did say “land border”. While I did consider that, it’s really not worth the discussion since the only relevant population centers would be Fairbanks and Anchorage. Both of which are very far from Russia. There’s so much empty space and people are so spread out that using drones to hit Alaska would be extremely inefficient. While it would piss people off, it wouldn’t cause the rest of the country to be afraid of being personally attacked.

Not to say Alaskans are expendable by any means. Just that there’s a very small fraction of Americans that would be exposed to drone attacks from Hostile counties. Those fractions being pacific territories, Hawaii, and Alaska.

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u/CuriousBear23 18h ago

“At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”

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u/InconspicuousWarlord 21h ago

But what about our golden dome? Gold is much better than iron. In fact, the developer of the iron dome spoke personally with our great president and apparently approached him on his knees with tears in his eyes asking how fearless leader came up with such a beautiful and brilliant design.

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u/Technical-Activity95 18h ago

your golden pedo is inside the dome

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u/kristospherein 21h ago

Dont bully a country that is your neighbor, say, like, maybe Canada, and you're all set.

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u/Hour_Tomatillo_2365 18h ago

Lmao US would bend Canada over

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u/Hour_Tomatillo_2365 18h ago

Russia would bend Ukraine over... If not for the US lol

Canada is not comparable to Ukraine because they have no "US" backing them

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u/Wuz314159 18h ago

but Donald Trump says that he can. He couldn't possibly be wrong, could he?

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u/TotallyLegitEstoc 17h ago

The US does have the benefit of oceans to the east and west. Those make strikes against us alot harder. Assuming Mexico and Canada aren't against us, defense is easier for us than other large countries.