Less than a week out from my exam (the 9th) and I’m tweaking tf out. Trying not to overdo it on studying to avoid exhausting myself in the final stretch, but it feels so weird not doing 2-3 hours every day lmao. I thought I’d use the spare time to make a post that the Sept. test takers can use to yap

What scores are we predicting? Is anyone else extra nervous after August’s ‘curve breaker’ exam🫩

Good luck yall, we’re almost done w this cursed exam

Choice quotes from the article (link at bottom):

"It’s hard to imagine that the original vision of standardizing law school admissions was to enable a bunch of clerks to play with each other as Disney World while listening to dull overpaid corporate speakers drone on about diversity and technology."

"LSAC no longer focuses on its original mission of making law school admissions efficient and helpful to the students and institutions it serves. Instead, it has expanded outward into a bloated harvester of cash from aspiring students."

"What is CAS?...It’s basically a Google Drive."

"[LSAC} is both an organizer of a conspiracy, and a conspirator itself."

"A particularly noxious observation is that 74% of LSAC’s revenue comes from rejected applicants."

And with that, I’ll leave you with an inspiring message from the admissions officer racket: “There is no place like Walt Disney World® Resort, and there is no meeting like LSAC’s Annual Meeting and Educational Conference!”

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/the-law-school-admissions-racket

hi everyone,

the september test is happening next week and i’m planning on taking my last PT tomorrow. i’ve seen a lot of mixed opinions about whether one should take a break from studying right before the test. i’ve been doing at least 2 hours a day for the past couple of weeks and my scores have been fluctuating. I feel more confident but my results are not always showing that.

based on y’all’s experience, should I go hard this week and study as much as I can? or should I take a break? and what exactly constitutes a break (like only study for a bit a day or not at all)?

thank you for any and all advice 💗 good luck to my fellow september testers 💗

Hi all - writing in here for a bit of advice. I’m currently scoring in the mid to high 160s, and I desperately want to break into the 170s. I’m signed up for October (and will sign up for November just in case) but my goal is to get between a 170-174. My LR sections are consistently around -3 and RC has a bit more variation, between -4 and -7. Like most people, I strongly prefer practicing LR, and feel like I’m close to mastering it. However, I often find myself stuck between two answer choices on higher difficulty questions: the right answer choice and a wrong one, and I find myself picking the wrong one which costs me points. I started with a 148 diagnostic and saw consistent progress until I broke into the 160s, but feel like I’ve been stuck in a plateau for months. Does anyone have any advice for breaking into the 170s? Is it even possible to get there by the Oct test? Any and all advice is appreciated!!

I was really surprised by the blind review score. But a 10 point gap is pretty big. What am I doing wrong?

Hi! I got a 167 in August and I’m retaking in September. If I get a few points lower, do I cancel? What looks worse—a lower score or cancellation ? Or is it best just not to take September? Ahh clearly spiraling

As a result of modern medicine, more people...

Which one of the following propositions is most precisely exemplified by the situation presented above?

(C) Every enhancement of the quality of life has unavoidable negative consequences.

(E) Solving one set of problems can create a different set of problems.

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this question. Most explanations say (C) is too strong/universal, but aren't we supposed to see the stimulus purely as an example? (C) is broad, but the stimulus is still a perfect example of "enhancement of quality of life --> negative consequences". I think the fact that "Every" is too strong isn't a good reason why (C) is wrong, because it shouldn't matter how broad or universal a principle/proposition is (in fact, they should be broad). How should I approach this question?

I’m really struggling to break into the 160s. My highest score in practice tests was 156. I do review my wrong answers and think I got better, but it turns out I didn’t.

Could you share a breakdown of what made you break into the 160s when you were scoring in the 140s and 150s?

Any help is welcome!

Got my August LSAT back it was my first official score didn't do great. I'm looking to gaining 5-10 points by the November test and I am looking for a tutor.

I need a tutor that is flexible as I was shift work in law enforcement and currently work at night and will work nights until December. I am also finishing my masters degree but that should not interrupt my schedule too much. I have subscribed to 7Sage and felt like that was working but score reflects otherwise. If anyone can help at a reasonable price that would be greatly appreciated.

One thing I’m running into consistently on RC sections is that the 4th passage rips me to shreds. I’ll go like -8 and 5 of these will come from Passage #4. I just did the section that has the infamous “Riddled Basins of Attraction” passage at the end, and yep….

I wanna add to that it feels very intimidating KNOWING when you’re going through Passages 1, 2, and 3, that a monstrosity is waiting for you with Passage 4. Of course it’s not a monolith, but the only section I’ve ever ended up over-performing on the 4th is the one with the “War Powers Resolution Act” passage… but I’m a PoliSci major lol.

Big question then: should I try to accurately, and slowly get all of the questions correct from Passages 1-3, and then go into 4 trying my best, with whatever time left? Or should I go at a faster pace, as accurately as I can, and try to finish all the passages?

What confuses me with A is the phrase “two phenomena.” and even "both phenomena" I understand the word phenomenon as the overall relationship between sleep and illness (i.e., sleeping more is associated with more illness).

So I thought there was only one phenomenon being discussed: the relationship between sleep and illness.

Am I misunderstanding what “phenomenon” means?

I’d appreciate an explanation of how to read this wording in LSAT terms.

I’m registered for September, but not feeling ready. I’d love to get the Argumentative Writing out of the way, though.

Can I do the writing portion and then move the actual exam to a later month? Or does taking the writing section lock me in to take the rest in September?

hi everyone, i am currently registered for the september LSAT but i am not PTing close to my goal score. i want a 170+ and i’m currently PTing 155~ so i’m deciding between taking the september test anyways (and probably end up cancelling) and register for november or just reschedule my september test to november. either ways i’m down $500.

can anyone tell me the pros and cons of both choices? thanks!

Took August got a 166 (PTing 169-173)
Current untimed scores (0-3 LR, 0-4 RC) range is very high I know but some of the LR questions are just confusing.
What to do to lock in that 172 by November.
Note: I used up all sections from 101-158 (some twice and three times over) only 159 left which I’m saving for a baseline right before November.
Taking additional practice stuff which I am also almost done with.

I have now taken the test twice. The first time I studied solely by taking practice tests and running drills, just trying to use repetition to get myself familiar with question types. After that test I got a 148. The second time I used the sevensage videos that broke down arguments and grammar as well as drilling the week beforehand. On my second attempt I got a 146. Which was hard because I thought I might have done better.

I am planning to take another crack at the exam in October and am looking for anyways to supplement my current studying. I am still planning to use seven sage but up my daily study time to include one big practice test a week, blind reviewing that test, and then drilling as the week continues and starting over. I am hoping to up my score 5-7 points (maybe more I can get a miracle) before applying this cycle.

Any videos or suggestions welcome. Thanks.

I scored a 152 on my first practice lsat. Decent launchpad, though I was hoping to do better. The necessary skills for ideal performance seem to be identifiable and trainable w/o payments to test prep companies. For example, familiarizing myself with the principles of conditional logic should be a breeze. However, I did an exceptionally poor job on the RC (reading comprehension) section: ~ 65% correct. Sigh.

How can I best improve my RC score through independent study?

Any additional advice for newbs will be gathered graciously.

Hey,
My LSATs were mostly between a 169-173 with 173 being the anomaly and mainly getting 169s and 170s.
I thought August was easy ish other than one of the LR which was tough, but a 166 means 12 wrong. literally don’t know where I could’ve gone wrong as for the WHOLE test I had 7 flagged which means I needed 5 extra wrong somewhere and all those flags wrong to get what I got.
Anyway my RC and LR untimed are all over the place (I keep them at like 0-2 LR and 0-2 RC but then sometimes they jump to -3 LR and -4 RC so idk what’s up with that).

so to be clear first off this is a genuine post!!! i don't really spend a lot of time on this sub for reasons that will become clear but i have noticed that there's a lot of accusing people of trolling. i'm not i swear 😭

okay: i do not plan to go to law school. my goal is to get into PhD programs, and i'm only applying to PhD programs this cycle. but given the current state of PhD admissions, i wanted to have an LSAT on file so that i always have law school as a backup plan, because it's my second passion after philosophy research. so i took the august administration, and i also registered to take the october one.

i just got my score back today (didn't have an argumentative writing on file because my house had an open floor plan and then i moved LOL). i got a 171. i know this is a good score, but if i'm hoping to get into law schools, i would REALLY like to have a 176+ because ... i've been prepping for PhD programs and so i don't really have any other outstanding credentials for law programs specifically. i'd like to ideally have a high enough LSAT that it can somewhat make up for the rest of my application.

i know that people say moving up within the 170s is EXTREMELY difficult, and i only have like a month and a half to prepare. BUT!

i cannot make clear enough that i did not study for the august admin. i had a pretty severe mental health crisis over the summer. pair that with the fact that i ended up experiencing several family emergencies, and the LSAT was the first thing to fall by the wayside. i studied for maybe 3-4 hours total. never took a full practice test, just did some problems out of a prep book. didn't even know the layout of the test, time limits, ANYTHING about its structure until the literal morning of my exam. please let it be known that this is not how i typically approach things that are important to me—my life was in shambles this summer and i am ... not proud of myself to put it lightly. left feeling like shit, sobbed for 3 hours.

but the fact that i didn't study or prep for this one and went in essentially blind is making me think that maybe there's more of a chance for me to boost my score within the next month? i'm hoping that it'll be less difficult to push my score up within the 170s than is typical because (theoretically) i missed a lot of questions on this admin due to being unprepared for time limits, not knowing question types, etc. with a month of actual studying and PTs, i could at least eliminate those questions, right?

my parents say i'm wasting my time and money—they think i should cancel and get a partial refund for the october administration. they're pretty convinced i won't be able to get it where i want it in only a month or so, given that "so much depends on luck." some of my friends have shared the sentiment. but am i wrong to think that the circumstances of my first admin will make it more plausible that i could pick up some extra points in the oct admin? i also don't want to cancel and reschedule for a later admin, at least not until i finish my PhD cycle and find out whether i got into a program.

any advice appreciated. because of the whole "not actually planning to go to law school" thing, i don't really have any mentors or advisors to ask about this kind of thing. it's quite possible that i'm dumb for even doing the LSAT in the first place but. idk guys 😭 i'm really stressed about this now and idk what i'm doing 😭

should i cancel my 145 if i am retaking in november and plan to have a higher score by then? will the 145 hurt my apps?

Currently studying for a few months (with some breaks for travel), although I work full time and it is difficult to do too much. My goal is just a 160+ (ideally 163-165), so nothing crazy. Just want some money from a regional school.

Diagnostic in early June was 148.
PT117 - July 3 was 158
PT 118 - July 26 was 155.
PT 159 - Aug 13 was 165.
PT 158 - Aug 23 was 163 (that week registered for October due to progress).
PT 156 - Aug 28 was a 156.
PT 155 - Sept 3 (today) was 157.

I am feeling a bit disheartened with the recent drop! Trying to figure out if I should cancel October, or if creating a 160 baseline by then is possible with realistically only ~15 hours a week to study.

Any advice or tips for most effective studying with limited time? I am trying to aim for quality. Also open to any passive studying (podcasts, etc.) I can do while I work out or something.

Thanks!

hi everyone, i got a 155 on the August lsat and i’m looking to improve by at least 10 points in October. i’m going to start working with a tutor but i feel a little overwhelmed by the all the options and want to get the most out of my money. does anyone have any good recommendations? also any general advice on quick improvement with studying? any answers are appreciated!! 🙏

Anyone with access to this LawHub PrepTest questions, PLEASE help. My answer was D. The correct answer is B.

Yes. I understand how B can be correct. But I do NOT understand how D is wrong. I want to put this in my wrong answer journal but I cannot move on until I fully understand WHY my answer was 100% wrong.

With necessary assumptions questions, I always look at all 5 answers and try to the find the answer that if UNTRUE, will destroy the entire argument.

Anyone, please help. Thank you. 🙏🏽

(I also looked up the explanation on LSAT Demon and I still don’t understand fully why D is 100% wrong.)

Im currently looking into the Blueprint 170+ course. Its $1600, I know thats ALOT of money for prep, but my question is are classes like that actually worth the money spent? Has anyone taken a class like this before? Did you get a 170+ or certain score like it promised? And was the material they provided to study worthwhile?